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    Quote Originally Posted by squidbear View Post
    so if you don't watch porn you're more likely to be nice to women? I'd like to point you again to the article on the first page
    My initial hunch would be to say, the more guys masturbate the less they are going to be interested in chasing women in general.

    On some level I'd even say it calms the sex drive.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    The study is flawed.


    No men don't watch porn.
    I know at least 2 that don't that aren't lying.

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    can't men masturbate without porn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    I know at least 2 that don't that aren't lying.
    i don't watch porn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    My initial hunch would be to say, the more guys masturbate the less they are going to be interested in chasing women in general.

    On some level I'd even say it calms the sex drive.
    doesn't calm mine. the increased cortisol levels just make me cranky, and more horny =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    can't men masturbate without porn?

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    i don't watch porn
    I don't use porn pretty often, gives you a much healthier sexual appetite. over-reliance on porn is super bad for your weiner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    can't men masturbate without porn?

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    i don't watch porn
    Can; but I am unsure what the material difference is. Okay so instead of masturbating to a performance of Riley Reid giving a blowjob, you masturbate thinking about that hot girl in your class giving you a blowjob.

    If anything I would say the first one is better socially since on some level there is considerable buffer between the object of sexual desire and the person doing the desiring.

    If the question is objectification of women and attitudes towards women, which are you more comfortable with? Men masturbating to blowjob fantasies about women whom are paid to be filmed giving blowjobs and whom have offered themselves as sexual performers, OR random women who haven't been paid and may or may not be okay with being the subject of sex fantasies?

    *shrug* I say Riley is paid, might as well make use of her work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    can't men masturbate without porn?

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    i don't watch porn
    Why does it matter? Can't people do what they want? I mean, that's why they do it, because they like it.
    Your powers are useless on me you silly billy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Can; but I am unsure what the material difference is. Okay so instead of masturbating to a performance of Riley Reid giving a blowjob, you masturbate thinking about that hot girl in your class giving your a blowjob.

    If anything I would say the first one is better socially since on some level there is considerable buffer between the object of sexual desire and the person doing the desiring.

    If the question is objectification of women and attitudes towards women, which are you more comfortable with? Men masturbating to blowjob fantasies about women whom are paid to be filmed giving blowjobs and whom have offered themselves as sexual performers, OR random women who haven't been paid and may or may not be okay with being the subject of sex fantasies?

    *shrug* I say Riley is paid, might as well make use of her work.
    Do men need to imagine anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xada View Post
    Why does it matter? Can't people do what they want? I mean, that's why they do it, because they like it.
    I never claimed it matters......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Can; but I am unsure what the material difference is. Okay so instead of masturbating to a performance of Riley Reid giving a blowjob, you masturbate thinking about that hot girl in your class giving your a blowjob.

    If anything I would say the first one is better socially since on some level there is considerable buffer between the object of sexual desire and the person doing the desiring.

    If the question is objectification of women and attitudes towards women, which are you more comfortable with? Men masturbating to blowjob fantasies about women whom are paid to be filmed giving blowjobs and whom have offered themselves as sexual performers, OR random women who haven't been paid and may or may not be okay with being the subject of sex fantasies?

    *shrug* I say Riley is paid, might as well make use of her work.
    there's quite a bit of interesting research that shows the overload of and eventual reliance on sexual stimulus from porn is actually really bad for your natural sex drive and erectile function. masturbating from your imagination for a few weeks can reverse it easily enough though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    Do men need to imagine anything?

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    I never claimed it matters......
    Then why pose the question you probably know the answer to.
    Your powers are useless on me you silly billy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    Do men need to imagine anything?

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    I never claimed it matters......
    From what I grasp, generally yes? Every man I've talked to about it, (granted thats only 2 about this subject) have said they use fantasy to do it.

    Certainly I don't randomly just shlick thinking about doing taxes. I'd hazard a guess that men don't masturbate while thinking of their W2 form either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    i think I have my posse filled out now. Mars is Theo, Jupiter is Vanyali, Linadra is Venus, and Heather is Mercury. Dragon can be Pluto.
    On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.

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    Most people who do not watch porn are deeply religious, and very religious people tend to have weird views about gender roles. I mean, nearly EVERYONE watches porn, so really this study tells you a lot more about those who do not watch it than those who do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    From what I grasp, generally yes? Every man I've talked to about it, (granted thats only 2 about this subject) have said they use fantasy to do it.

    Certainly I don't randomly just shlick thinking about doing taxes. I'd hazard a guess that men don't masturbate while thinking of their W2 form either.
    /shrug the physical sensation was enough for me

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    I think that it's mostly because people who don't watch porn tend to be more conservative than the ones who do, it doesn't have anything to do with porn itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by melodramocracy View Post
    I find this a bit weird, seeing how much porn out there leans towards degradation / objectification on some level or another. *shrug*
    How so? I've not come across a single porn video where women are being treated as something less than a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeilon View Post
    How so? I've not come across a single porn video where women are being treated as something less than a man.
    You're watching mild porn

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    You're watching mild porn
    in fairness anything being done to a woman you can find being done to a man, however it's a tiny fraction of the amount of content, and is made exclusively for gay men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidbear View Post
    in fairness anything being done to a woman you can find being done to a man, however it's a tiny fraction of the amount of content, and is made exclusively for gay men.
    That's bs. Fem dom has a pretty healthy following

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeilon View Post
    How so? I've not come across a single porn video where women are being treated as something less than a man.
    I gotta call bullshit on this, especially since you watch anime and likely watch hentai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    That may be, but then you said that masturbation is not explicitly enhanced by pornography, which is, in the case of many a man, quite false. Also, masturbation not requiring porn is also not true in very many cases; there are at least a good number of men who need that (right kind of) audiovisual stimulus in order to become, and stay excited. The point I was trying to make is that as the general statement as it was, it wasn't accurate when it comes to the male sex.



    You're coming at it from a woman's perspective, and I think it's somewhat established knowledge that when it comes to these things, women rely a lot more on their imagination, thoughts and feelings, than men do, who on the other hand are stimulated much more by audiovisual cues.
    You also have to keep in mind women are less likely to jump to porn because they have both more toys and it's more socially accepted to use toys being a women. I'm very confident to say that men would watch a lot less porn if they could use more sex toys without being looked at like weirdos.

    Simple example, I know of multiple women who have said they never date a guy who would use a Fleshlight or artificial vagina on occasion despite using dildos and vibrators themselves. It's a retarded cultural thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gheld View Post
    That's bs. Fem dom has a pretty healthy following
    what, niche fetish sites and amateur trash, compared to the decade long growth of gonzo porn made by millionaires like Max Hardcore? sure, keep telling yourself they're the same.

    edit - unless the BS you're talking about is the gay thing, and I was referring to the really extreme end like public humiliation and extreme insertion which is predominantly done on men, by men.
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