Right-wing becomes bigger in Germany

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Yesterday were regional elections in Germany.

Afd is becoming like Nsdap ... I don´t know how stupid people can be!!!
Merkel is the worst thing that Germany has happened since Hitler,but its not a reason to vote Right-wing.

I realy fear the future.(I live in Germany)

(Sorry for my bad English)

[Combatbutler]

It was hardly surprising to be honest, people felt ignored and angry and the Afd was the only party, which is blatantly against more refugees, which resonates with quite a few people.

How anyone was surprised by this outcome is quite beyond me to be honest. Also never forget this mindset is nothing new, the people just didn't saw a reson to vote in such a manner, but since Merkel has no intention to budge from her position the people intend to force her.

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It's only logical.

The current governments are "guilty" of helping right-wing politicians gain power by letting in so many immigrants and completely ignoring their own people.

[Skulltaker]

It's only logical.

The current governments are "guilty" of helping right-wing politicians gain power by letting in so many immigrants and completely ignoring their own people.

Letting them in is not the problem. Letting them in without adressing people's fears is. But it IS the established parites fault.

It was hardly surprising to be honest, people felt ignored and angry and the Afd was the only party, which is blatantly against more refugees, which resonates with quite a few people.

How anyone was surprised by this outcome is quite beyond me to be honest. Also never forget this mindset is nothing new, the people just didn't saw a reson to vote in such a manner, but since Merkel has no intention to budge from her position the people intend to force her.

It's to late for Merkel. She's most concerned about her legacy, and now she has it. She's the chancelor that helped the NSDAP crowd back into a position where you have to deal with them.

Still, I'm not worried yet. Refugee 'crisis' is still fresh. When we vote the Bundestag AfD will only have their wits and program to gain followers. And that won't get them far. If people realize that the AfD will cut their rights even more then the established parties do and take from the needy even more, they will kill them in the elections.

[rogueMatthias]

I've always been middle to left in my political views and like to look at various evidence and talk things through before forming an opinion.

I feel that over the past years, the left has swung SO FAR left that it's gone off its rocker completely and become as dangerous as any right wing parties.

Having views such as "Completely unrestricted movement for ALL economic migrants isn't necessarily an overwhelmingly positive thing for the country" makes me racist now apparently. Even trying to debate issues around the European migrant crisis makes me hard Right. The left has become as biased, bigoted as the right is meant to be. They have total faith in their ideals despite any evidence proving it's inaccuracy, and they violently close down anyone who disagrees with their views.

I think this attitude is just pushing everyone else further right. You can see it in US too, the more people label everyone racists and idiots for their views, the more they're pushing them straight towards Trump.

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You shouldn't fear for the future because there are people standing up for the German people. You should fear for the future if they don't win the election and the millions of Muslims change your society in a less than beneficial way.

It's funny that Merkel, supposedly a conservative politician is a regressive leftist herself. Or heartbreakingly sad, you get the idea.

[Skulltaker]

You shouldn't fear for the future because there are people standing up for the German people. You should fear for the future if they don't win the election and the millions of Muslims change your society in a less than beneficial way.

No they don't. They actually take from the german people. But hey, they don't have a future here anyway.

[Deleted]

Good and rightly so, Germany is full of apologists and they needed a change in mentality and hopefully this will do it.

Merkel practically created a humanitarian crisis in Europe which will cause major divisions in German and Nordic societies and the EU for many years to come, over what? Liberal guilt!

They should have adopted the same method as the UK and only looked to take those most vulnerable from camps in the first instance rather than have an open door policy, creating a major pull factor for refugees and non refugees alike from the middle east and North Africa and leaving other countries like Greece, Sweden and Austria to also deal with the mess one woman created in her naivety.

You can't blame people for being pissed off and going for populist parties.

[Combatbutler]

You shouldn't fear for the future because there are people standing up for the German people. You should fear for the future if they don't win the election and the millions of Muslims change your society in a less than beneficial way.

The Afd cannot be voted for they have no concept, aside from being populists, they are fit as a protest vote nothing more and hopefully the mainstream politics realize they can't go on like this.

[Skulltaker]

You can't blame people for being pissed off and going for populist parties.

But you CAN blame them for going to a party that promotes cutting into their basic rights and all social progress we've made the past decades. You CAN blame them for falling for right-wing bullshit that's far from any reality. They always say there is a refugee crisis - there isn't. Not in germany. There is one in the middle east. So far the impact on everydays life was negligable. Things just get blown out of proportion and people fall for it. Sachsen-Anhalt has had a Nazi problem since WW2 ended. Now they found a rallying point.

I agree people have the right to be pissed at Merkel. She is to blame. She's incompetent and lazy. But she's still leagues better then the AfD.

[PC2]

This bodes well for Germany. Society is becoming more informed by the day regarding the modern migrant problem.

[Stelio Kontos]

I generally support the right. I think this is good news with one caveat since it's Germany. The right rising in the best interests of Europe is good, so let's not start murdering people in general, Europeans with tanned complexions in specific.

I'd love to visit Germany, but being Greek, and the issue with the rise of anti-immigrant groups, I'd hate to get curb-stomped by a neo-Nazi just because I'm Greek and look Mediterranean.

[Skulltaker]

They actually do.



- Cut the employer's share of pension
- raise age
- cut employer's share of unemployement money packet 1
- privatize said money packet
- remove state-bound accident ensurance
- remove inheritance tax and trade tax
- reinstate bank secrecy
- forbid savings funding for bundesländer and communes
- no financial support for single parents
- harder abortion laws
- traditional gender roles
- forbid gender studies
- remove of anti-discrimination laws and diversity-programs
- privatize state media
- lower age of criminal responsibility to 12
- reinstate compulsory military service (for men and women - so much for traditional gender roles)
- no 'narrowminded' treatment of the history of national socialism in germany
- remove the basic right for asylum
- restict jwish and muslim traditions
-"Islam isn't part of germany"
- keep nuclear power plants on line
- no more climate preservance politic
- remove the renewable energy law.

So... yeah. That will be quiet popular when they don't have refugees around to put the blame on.

I generally support the right. I think this is good news with one caveat since it's Germany. The right rising in the best interests of Europe is good, so let's not start murdering people in general, Europeans with tanned complexions in specific.

I'd love to visit Germany, but being Greek, and the issue with the rise of anti-immigrant groups, I'd hate to get curb-stomped by a neo-Nazi just because I'm Greek and look Mediterranean.

That doesn't happen. No worries. Just stay away from Sachsen-Anhalt. They are basically our Texas, only without the significance. Nothing to see there anyway.

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except for them being climate change deniers they sound reasonable

they should try to change Germany's oppressive gun laws too though (I have a feeling those will be needed with all those new 'Germans')

[Skulltaker]

except for them being climate change deniers they sound reasonable

Wait... that's where you draw the line?

Anyhow.. no chance. Without the refugee 'crisis' they'd be stuck at the 5% idiots who usually voted for them. It's a symptom at best. Opposed to the NSDAP and Hitler they have no intentions of bettering germany, and no means to do so. People are also by far not desperate enought. 25% in SA is bad, but it will pass. No need to worry and no need to get your hopes up for a republican germany.

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Wait... that's where you draw the line?

Anyhow.. no chance. Without the refugee 'crisis' they'd be stuck at the 5% idiots who usually voted for them. It's a symptom at best. Opposed to the NSDAP and Hitler they have no intentions of bettering germany, and no means to do so. People are also by far not desperate enought. 25% in SA is bad, but it will pass. No need to worry and no need to get your hopes up for a republican germany.

well climate change is a fact, everything else is an opinion

so where else would I draw the line

[Deleted]

Well i'm from germany too and to me this is not a vote "pro right". There were a lot more people electing this year than in the year before and to me it was a election against the traditional parties. And since the crisis currently is about refugess the winner of that is the AfD, a right spectrum party. If the current crisis still would be Greece, i don't think the afd would be the winner but rather a party beeing against the politics for greece.

A lot of people in this country are scared by the political developments in the last 10 or 20 years. About the increasing unjustice in every part of our lifes. And we are at a point were people try something stupid just to tell the fu... politicians the direction must change. Hopefully the traditional parties understand that sign and change their mind and the ways they take. Otherwise i'm looking forward to a dark future...

[Skulltaker]

Well i'm from germany too and to me this is not a vote "pro right". There were a lot more people electing this year than in the year before and to me it was a election against the traditional parties. And since the crisis currently is about refugess the winner of that is the AfD, a right spectrum party. If the current crisis still would be Greece, i don't think the afd would be the winner but rather a party beeing against the politics for greece.

A lot of people in this country are scared by the political developments in the last 10 or 20 years. About the increasing unjustice in every part of our lifes. And we are at a point were people try something stupid just to tell the fu... politicians the direction must change. Hopefully the traditional parties understand that sign and change their mind and the ways they take. Otherwise i'm looking forward to a dark future...

Exactly. And that's all there is. People use the only way they can express their frustration over Merkels policy for others. Any by others I'm not talking about refugees.

well climate change is a fact, everything else is an opinion

so where else would I draw the line

Didn't expect that part. But... how do you support Trump if you can tell fact from fiction? He can't!

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Exactly. And that's all there is. People use the only way they can express their frustration over Merkels policy for others. Any by others I'm not talking about refugees.



Didn't expect that part. But... how do you support Trump if you can tell fact from fiction? He can't!

I support Trump because I share his views on a lot of things.

[PC2]

Didn't expect that part. But... how do you support Trump if you can tell fact from fiction? He can't!

Yes climate change is real and Trump is great. Germany will understand when it's closer to being overrun.