Ukrainian lawyer of captured Russian soldiers found dead

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What, Western media will do two articles per week about Ukrainian corruption and lawlessness instead of one like they do now? :/

Its not a news, that Ukraine have problem with corruptions and lawlessness, its rutine not news, its a big news if Ukraine govement officially start to murder indviudial to gain a political advanatage.

Actually i'd even go as far as claim they are mostly written off and Europe is starting to look for possibilities of throwing them back to Russia... not an easy task but Europe isn't charity that can support them without Ukraine doing any real reforms they promised...

No it will not hapen becuse of the history of WW2 of "anschluss" then you misunderstands the balance of power, Ukraine only need to survive during the hardship to "win" Putin must be popular during the hardship to "win"

I know you are a hardcore suporter of Putin and cant see that he is doing somthing wrong but http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ru...-idUSKCN0WN1H3

"According to one poll, by the independent Levada Center, 73 percent of voters said they trusted Putin, down from 83 percent in the same polling series a year before, while 19 percent said they did not trust him, up from 14 percent."

Yes he is still popular, but it start to erode.

[Cybran]

Its not a news, that Ukraine have problem with corruptions and lawlessness, its rutine not news

So why is the EU trying to give them Visa free travel in Europe and free trade? Giving economic aid to failing and corrupt states is not why the EU exists.

Plus, how come ratings matter so much all of the sudden? I thought they were fake and didn't represent truth just a year ago. Is it because they now support your delusions and bias?

[Mejis]

So why is the EU trying to give them Visa free travel in Europe and free trade? Giving economic aid to failing and corrupt states is not why the EU exists.

The EU has been giving aid to corrupt and failing states for ages. Would anyone say countries like Romania, Serbia, Bulgaria, Moldova, etc are bastions against corruption and economic failure?

[Shalcker]

Its not a news, that Ukraine have problem with corruptions and lawlessness, its rutine not news, its a big news if Ukraine govement officially start to murder indviudial to gain a political advanatage.

That has been happening from very start, they had a string of "suicides" of former Party of Regions officials around spring 2015 (with final amount of dead around ten)...

Not a big news at all.

No it will not hapen becuse of the history of WW2 of "anschluss" then you misunderstands the balance of power, Ukraine only need to survive during the hardship to "win" Putin must be popular during the hardship to "win"

Well, the point is Ukraine cannot "survive" alone. And the only one who can theoretically throw them lifeline is Russia - and even that is a stretch. European "support" is actually restricting their trade below their previous levels and in no way Europe is able to replace Russian market.

So without Russian support they're doomed.

And they probably are.

I know you are a hardcore suporter of Putin and cant see that he is doing somthing wrong but http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ru...-idUSKCN0WN1H3

His support is dropping from record highs, sure. Economy does take toll after a while. It's still higher then the support he had before entire Ukrainian situation though (around 60-65%).

...meanwhile Poroshenko support is at 17.9%, below levels at which Yanukovich was ousted ...

[Cybran]

The EU has been giving aid to corrupt and failing states for ages.

Only in Ukraine has the EU supported a state where lawyers and politicians get killed so blatantly. Why is the EU supporting a failed state?

[Deleted]

So why is the EU trying to give them Visa free travel in Europe and free trade? Giving economic aid to failing and corrupt states is not why the EU exists.

Did you not rage about that EU did not helpe Greece sufficiently in all its corruption and economic crisis What change?

Plus, how come ratings matter so much all of the sudden? I thought they were fake and didn't represent truth just a year ago. Is it because they now support your delusions and bias?

They are lies, big lies and statistic, So they are "improved" and "twisted" to show Putin in the best possible light, so the fall in popularity is probebly bigger, but it show the trend.

[Shibito]

Only in Ukraine has the EU supported a state where lawyers and politicians get killed so blatantly. Why is the EU supporting a failed state?

Why is Russia bullying weaker countries?

[Ausr]

Only in Ukraine has the EU supported a state where lawyers and politicians get killed so blatantly. Why is the EU supporting a failed state?

I thought the EU and it's currency was supposed to collapse 2-3 years ago like you said or is this more rambling conspiracies?

[Daerio]

What wartime again?

You're right, Russia's invasion of Ukraine was quite peaceful. I misspoke.

[Mejis]

Only in Ukraine has the EU supported a state where lawyers and politicians get killed so blatantly. Why is the EU supporting a failed state?

I have a counter-question. You condemn the US and the EU for support the Ukrainian government who gives supplies to Azov Battalion. Yet you don't condemn the other side for arming the now dead Batman battalion or their remnants that went into Viking Battalion?

Or how about how Putin and Dugin support a geopolitical shift towards Eurasia that has open support from Greece's Golden Dawn and France's Le Pen. If we're going to condemn one side for something then we need to condemn both sides. If you're going to play a moralist, you can haven't your cake and eat it.

[Shalcker]

Why is Russia bullying weaker countries?

Why is Germany bullying Greece?

When you have leverage, you use it to get what you want. And Russian leverage in case of Ukraine is arguably higher.

[Tackhisis]

You're right, Russia's invasion of Ukraine was quite peaceful.

There is no war, no invasion, just an anti-terrorist operation in two Ukrainian oblasts. There was no war declared, no diplomatic relationships broken, no borders closed... So it is quite unclear what "wartime" you are speaking of.

[Daerio]

There is no war, no invasion, just an anti-terrorist operation in two Ukrainian oblasts. There was no war declared, no diplomatic relationships broken, no borders closed... So it is quite unclear what "wartime" you are speaking of.

Well, since I'm not a sheep that depends on government officials to define for me what a war is, I'm just fine with calling it what it is. (The US has had several of these "peaceful non-wars" as well)

No semantics dance is going to change the nature of the violence.

[Crispin]

I have a counter-question. You condemn the US and the EU for support the Ukrainian government who gives supplies to Azov Battalion. Yet you don't condemn the other side for arming the now dead Batman battalion or their remnants that went into Viking Battalion?

Or how about how Putin and Dugin support a geopolitical shift towards Eurasia that has open support from Greece's Golden Dawn and France's Le Pen. If we're going to condemn one side for something then we need to condemn both sides. If you're going to play a moralist, you can haven't your cake and eat it.

Cybran loves conspiracy theories and will belive anything that puts the west in a bad light, if it's Russia it's all lies ofcourse, Russia would never fund the extreme right wing or neo-nazi's, gangs or local mafia's like Kadyrov, invade and annex countries, fix their elections or support north korea, no sir Russia is the pinnacle of good.

Furthermore his whining about the EU showing support for Ukraine, is ironic when you consider the guy lives in the most corrupt country in the EU.

His double standards, inability to read his "sources" and blind hate for americans means that he's better viewed as a comic relief.

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Why is Germany bullying Greece?

When you have leverage, you use it to get what you want. And Russian leverage in case of Ukraine is arguably higher.

Wait did Germany invade and annex parts of Greece? when? (that was a terrible weak attempt of whataboutism on your part btw)

[Tackhisis]

Wait did Germany invade and annex parts of Greece?

What parts of Ukraine were "annexed"? If you hint at Crimea and Simferopol, the legitimate governments of those two decided to secede, and are no longer parts of Ukraine.

[Daerio]

What parts of Ukraine were "annexed"? If you hint at Crimea and Simferopol, the legitimate governments of those two decided to secede, and are no longer parts of Ukraine.

Hell, the way you're trying to tell the story, there was no violence in the area at all.

Just the most peaceful transition ever. If only it weren't for those western aggressors.

[Shalcker]

Wait did Germany invade and annex parts of Greece? when? (that was a terrible weak attempt of whataboutism on your part btw)

Is Germany bullying Greece? Absolutely no doubt about it, yes.

Methods of bullying do not change anything - bullying is bullying, be it punch to the face, psychological warfare, economic warfare, or actual warfare.

It's you who are trying to hide behind whataboutism. I have no problem calling both bullying.

[Crispin]

What parts of Ukraine were "annexed"? If you hint at Crimea and Simferopol, the legitimate governments of those two decided to secede, and are no longer parts of Ukraine.

I'm not hinting at anything, Crimea was annexed by Russia.

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Is Germany bullying Greece? Absolutely no doubt about it, yes.

Methods of bullying do not change anything - bullying is bullying, be it punch to the face, psychological warfare, economic warfare, or actual warfare.

It's you who are trying to hide behind whataboutism. I have no problem calling both bullying.

Invading a country is not bullying, or would you call the Iraq war bullying aswell?

[Shalcker]

Hell, the way you're trying to tell the story, there was no violence in the area at all.

There was basically none in Crimea, yes.

Donbass obviously was different.

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Invading a country is not bullying, or would you call the Iraq war bullying aswell?

Obviously it is bullying too if we're calling what Russia did to Ukraine bullying.

Was Iraq weaker there? Definitely! Can you ask "Why US bullies weaker countries like Iraq (on false pretenses)?" Again, definitely yes.

[Shibito]

Why is Germany bullying Greece?

When you have leverage, you use it to get what you want. And Russian leverage in case of Ukraine is arguably higher.

Why is Greece bullying europe?