Why are "White Nationalists" so totalitarian?

[Super Kami Dende]

Why is it only ever bad if White people are nationalist?

You are allowed black countries, asian countries, but say a White country and suddenly its "OMFG YOU GUYS NEED MULTICULTRALISMS!!!"

It is fucking stupid double standards on the world.

[Techno-Druid]

Black extremists? What constitutes black extremism? There is nothing wrong with advocating for black unity and self-determination.

To be honest, this whole concept of black (and white) unity is quite annoying. Being mulatto I get caught up in this bullshit all the time, simply for either being mixed. A lot of black nationals want to people like me to ignore my non-African ancestry and act like a ghetto, redneck so they can feel comfortable with me. White nationalists want people like me to act similar so they can justify trying to seperate themselves from us.

Idiots all of them.

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Why is it only ever bad if White people are nationalist?

You are allowed black countries, asian countries, but say a White country and suddenly its "OMFG YOU GUYS NEED MULTICULTRALISMS!!!"

It is fucking stupid double standards on the world.

What double standard realistically exists? Nobody is stopping you from moving to Somalia, Kenya, Equatorial Guinea or Chad and living your beautiful days there. Plenty of Europeans live in Japan, Hong Kong, Macua, Shanghai and South Korea, many stay in Singapore and Dubai and Abu Dhabi and Mexico.

Also multiple ethnic groups living in a country doesn't equal multiculturalism.

[Hana Song]

What double standard realistically exists? Nobody is stopping you from moving to Somalia, Kenya, Equatorial Guinea or Chad and living your beautiful days there. Plenty of Europeans live in Japan, Hong Kong, Macua, Shanghai and South Korea, many stay in Singapore and Dubai and Abu Dhabi and Mexico.

Also multiple ethnic groups living in a country doesn't equal multiculturalism.

What do you think is plenty? You can go with weeks without seeing anyone european here.

[Shinra1]

Why is it only ever bad if White people are nationalist?

You are allowed black countries, asian countries, but say a White country and suddenly its "OMFG YOU GUYS NEED MULTICULTRALISMS!!!"

It is fucking stupid double standards on the world.

Because white nationalism is synonymous with white supremacy...But you already knew that, didn't you?
You're mixing up patriotism which is perfectly acceptable with what nationalism is right now which is like I said racism.

Which white countries are you talking about?
I've been to Poland and Ireland, they're both very 'white'.
So is most of Eastern Europe and Russia.
USA, Canada and Australia had brown and black natives living in those countries long before Europeans arrived lest you forget the indigeonous people which you killed, pillaged and raped to realise your manifest destiny!!! Thailand has many Western expats living there, many Brits live and work in the Middle East, like in Dubai.

Japan has boosted immigration in recent years, many Filipinos and Vietnamese live there, as do Westerners. Japan can't take too many immigrants due to high population density, which is higher than that of the UK. If you count the US military occupation of the Okinawan prefecture - and it is an occupation because the majority of the locals want the Yanks to go home, you could argue a lot of Americans live there.

There's no agenda behind most of it, just plain old economics. The EU, US, Canada and Australia enjoy a high standard of living, good salaries, decent working conditions, and a stable infrastructure which is a 'pull' factor when it comes to immigration.
Who wants to live in totalitarian China with a state censored internet and work long hours for the equivalent of less than £200 a month?

[Techno-Druid]

What do you think is plenty? You can go with weeks without seeing anyone european here.

But that doesn't make them absent.

[Hana Song]

But that doesn't make them absent.

No but there is not plenty of europeans living here.

[Deletedaccount1]

Plenty of Europeans live in Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Shanghai and South Korea

Also multiple ethnic groups living in a country doesn't equal multiculturalism.

If by plenty you mean a few thousand then sure. Like 0.09% of the population are permanent foreign expats in these countries.

They are better off for it too generally. Letting in immigrants for skilled labor is the only real reason any country should let them in nowadays.

[Tailswipe]

To be honest the only borderline "totalitarians" I see are the ultra leftists who want the government to limit free speech and ban or disrupt anything that doesn't gel with the leftist world view.

[Deletedaccount1]

Japan has boosted immigration in recent years, many Filipinos and Vietnamese live there, as do Westerners. Japan can't take too many immigrants due to high population density, which is higher than that of the UK. If you count the US military occupation of the Okinawan prefecture - and it is an occupation because the majority of the locals want the Yanks to go home, you could argue a lot of Americans live there.

This is not true. This is fiction.

Also most Okinawans would be broke if they didn't have Americans contributing to their economy. They just like to complain when a Japanese girl gets raped every x number of years or they complain about how loud military aircraft is.

[Techno-Druid]

To be honest the only borderline "totalitarians" I see are the ultra leftists who want the government to limit free speech and ban or disrupt anything that doesn't gel with the leftist world view.

They're both in the same boats.

[namecraft]

To be honest the only borderline "totalitarians" I see are the ultra leftists who want the government to limit free speech and ban or disrupt anything that doesn't gel with the leftist world view.

join ze right wing! the only other option!

[Shinra1]

This is not true. This is fiction.

Also most Okinawans would be broke if they didn't have Americans contributing to their economy. They just like to complain when a Japanese girl gets raped every x number of years or they complain about how loud military aircraft is.

Errr... There were 300k filipinos living in Japan between 2011-2013

[Deleted]

Errr... There were 300k filipinos living in Japan between 2011-2013

In a country with like 127 million population, that's nothing. There's plenty of finns living in Sweden, we make up like 7% of the population. Filipinos are like, less than 1% of the population with those numbers in Japan.

[Deletedaccount1]

Errr... There were 300k filipinos living in Japan between 2011-2013

They come here to clean houses for a few years then leave. Almost none of them have a permanent expat status.

[Tailswipe]

join ze right wing! the only other option!

Most of the right wing is made up of moderates like Trump and Cruz supporters with only a very very small number of ultra right wingers. Meanwhile if you look at the Bernie campaign you can see the full extent the the fanatical ultra-left with the huge mobs he can mobilise to disrupt any right leaning rally.

[Kuntantee]

Also most Okinawans would be broke if they didn't have Americans contributing to their economy. They just like to complain when a Japanese girl gets raped every x number of years or they complain about how loud military aircraft is.

So it's okay if someone gets raped every X year as long as economy is kept alive and well by the rapists? The very fact that they dare to sexually assault, and even rape a local women and are still not kicked is one big mystery to me.

[Lilija]

All nationalists are totalitarian. It's because it comes from collective thought and that is always authoritarian. People are individuals and if you start treating them like groups they oppose it. Therefor, collectivist turn to all forms of control methods in order to negate individual freedoms which oppose their ideology.

Being an individual mean you are resposible for youself. Being part of the group make that into shared responsibility. Group think brings the feeling of safety, however, it costs your individuality.

[Deletedaccount1]

So it's okay if someone gets raped every X year as long as economy is alive and well by the rapists?

Yes because if Americans leave, the Chinese get to come in and someone will get raped every X seconds instead.

[Deleted]

All nationalists are totalitarian. It's because it comes from collective thought and that is always authoritarian. People are individuals and if you start treating them like groups they oppose it. Therefor, collectivist turn to all forms of control methods in order to negate individual freedoms which oppose their ideology.

Being an individual mean you are resposible for youself. Being part of the group make that into shared responsibility. Group think brings the feeling of safety, however, it costs your individuality.

Lol what. People are prone to forming groups, people aren't as individualist as you want to believe. Sweden is a perfect example, Swedes are pretty conformist.

[Shinra1]

They come here to clean houses for a few years then leave. Almost none of them have a permanent expat status.

Why are you downplaying the japan-philipines relations? Are you a racist?