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Didn't he want to invade Azeroth? We killed Blackhand, Kargath, Garrosh, and many more of his soldiers. Then after Blackhand dies, Gul'dan gets tired of his bullshit and roflpwns him and sprays Tanaan with his green juice and takes Grom prisoner. Cue Hellfire Citadel raid. Okay, I guess I can kind of understand the events here. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, so he teams up with us to kill Archimonde and defeat Gul'dan. But... After that, it seems like he forgot all about his plans for conquest. He's cheering with us and acting like we're the best of buds. After Archimonde dies, why doesn't he go back to his original plan and end our temporary truce? What made him change his mind?
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2016-03-26, 06:29 PM #1The Lightbringer
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Why did Grom suddenly become a good guy
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2016-03-26, 06:30 PM #2Over 9000!
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In the second tier we didn't have.
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2016-03-26, 06:31 PM #3DeletedWe saved his life and orcs are honorable.
Originally Posted by JustRob
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2016-03-26, 06:32 PM #4Deleted
Basically what Soulwind said. The lore was pretty much slapped together, especially by the end.
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2016-03-26, 06:43 PM #5High Overlord
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Because the writers felt like it.
Same reason Garrosh suddenly became a bad guy.
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2016-03-26, 06:50 PM #6Deleted
Some things are not worth spending the rest of your life fighting
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2016-03-26, 06:51 PM #7Fluffy Kitten
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He was never really good or bad, just extremely easy to manipulate one way or the other. This has been true since he first drank the demon blood in MU.
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2016-03-26, 06:55 PM #8Herald of the Titans
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It took 2 expansions for him to really become evil. That's faster than a complete reversal in character in one patch. Originally Posted by Shekora
And yet he was resisting Gul'dan for so long. Originally Posted by Rickmagnus
It really was just terrible writing. They could have just had him slink off with Durotan yelling it instead. :/
But no, Grom was awesome so yay Grom!
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2016-03-26, 06:56 PM #9Fluffy Kitten
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The second time, because of his son. The first time he was totally down with the demon funk. Originally Posted by Mic_128
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2016-03-26, 06:57 PM #10Legendary!
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How was he supposed to go back to his original plan after we defeated his army?
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2016-03-26, 07:00 PM #11Bloodsail Admiral
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He was supposed to be the final boss of the expansion according Tom Chilton interview, they obviously changed their mind at the last minute.
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2016-03-26, 07:03 PM #12Pit Lord
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A hollow and pointless expansion deserves an equally hollow and pointless story.
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2016-03-26, 07:07 PM #13Brewmaster
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There was suppose to be stuff about Grom and the rest of the orcs joining up with the Frost Wolves to help fix the damage they did. Apologies, rebuilding the land all that good shit. But people frothed and foamed so much they said fuck it and didn't bother with it. Look that world is doomed, after we leave and start fighting the Legion on Azeroth Sargeras shows up and cleaves Draenor in two killing everything.
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2016-03-26, 07:10 PM #14Titan
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Its up there with the Dragon Soul ending, its the laziest of endings. Originally Posted by sith
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2016-03-26, 07:13 PM #15Pandaren Monk
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Abandonment of any minimal attempt at a semi coherent expansion plot.
If anything he shouldn't have gone back to his original plan but marched off to a prison or even summary execution for his actions.
It looks like the entire point of the expansion was just to bring Gul'dan back...everything else is just looking to be a bi-product which we'll leave in Draenor and likely never return to. I don't really blame Blizzard for that though, people cry like mad when they try introduce a new villain.
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2016-03-26, 07:31 PM #16DeletedMetzen is gay for super-muscular, half-nacked brown/green men. Originally Posted by WHZeratul
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2016-03-26, 07:32 PM #17The Lightbringer
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There were like five orcs cheering for him when he yelled DRAENOR IS FREE Originally Posted by StationaryHawk
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2016-03-26, 07:41 PM #18The Insane
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metzen hasnt been in charge of WoW lore in years. its been kosak. Originally Posted by M-Ra
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2016-03-26, 07:42 PM #19Deleted
He became a good guy becauce they did not want to come up with a way to kill him. and the story they had plannen for him was Cut short.
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2016-03-26, 07:47 PM #20The Lightbringer
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They killed every other interesting Orc Warlord in such poinless ways they had to come up with some non-specific reason to keep one alive.
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