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    US support for authoritarian regimes worldwide

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

    Just some random thoughts on failed US foreign policy and support for dictatorships:

    During the cold war, the US has supported dictatorships to slow the rise of communism: Vietnam, China, Korea

    Chiang Kai Shek could have won the war in China and modern day China would be a democratic one.

    "From the 1980s onwards, the United States government began to fear that its interests would be threatened by the increasingly popular Islamist movements in the Middle East, and began to work to secure cooperative authoritarian regimes in the region, while isolating and weakening, but not always removing, uncooperative ones"

    The US war in Iraq and war in Syria to dethrone authoritarian regimes have now destabilized the region leading to the rise of terrorist organizations such as ISIS.

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    We wouldn't have done so much evil through our foreign policy if this country wasn't ruled by an oligarchy. Unfortunately, many people have been brainwashed into defending this system, which is why so many oppose Donald Trump who pretty much supports isolationism. I don't understand why the bleeding heart liberals who constantly complain about the evil American empire being the greatest threat to the world, aren't lining up to support Trump, the only viable candidate in recent history that has proposed ending imperialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonatine185 View Post
    and began to work to secure cooperative authoritarian regimes in the region, while isolating and weakening, but not always removing, uncooperative ones"
    Are there any other kind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonatine185 View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

    Just some random thoughts on failed US foreign policy and support for dictatorships:

    During the cold war, the US has supported dictatorships to slow the rise of communism: Vietnam, China, Korea

    Chiang Kai Shek could have won the war in China and modern day China would be a democratic one.

    "From the 1980s onwards, the United States government began to fear that its interests would be threatened by the increasingly popular Islamist movements in the Middle East, and began to work to secure cooperative authoritarian regimes in the region, while isolating and weakening, but not always removing, uncooperative ones"

    The US war in Iraq and war in Syria to dethrone authoritarian regimes have now destabilized the region leading to the rise of terrorist organizations such as ISIS.
    you forgot chile and haiti.

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    Are there any other kind?
    yes theres good old fascism.
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    An argument can certainly be made against American support for authoritarian regimes, but that list is not a good jumping off point. A lot of those countries are using "support" very loosely, with countries like Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Communist Romania, WW2 Soviet Union and others appearing on the list.

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    Is this somehow bad? xD

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    A list of US supporting ''rebels'' and terrorists against the governments would also be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonatine185 View Post
    The US war in Iraq and war in Syria to dethrone authoritarian regimes have now destabilized the region leading to the rise of terrorist organizations such as ISIS.
    Terrorist organizations have been around for vastly longer than the overthrowing of the perverse Hussein crime family. Their ideology is 1400 years old and they've been killing each other in the ME over a disagreement. The reasons behind what they are doing is the exact same as it was then and now they have a wider reach thanks to globalization. The rise of a group like ISIS was an inevitability and is the result of many factors, much of which is globalization, the decimation of other terrorist organizations causing the followers to flock to them, and the exposure via. the Internet and international news.

    Getting involved in Iraq was a huge net negative for the US by the way, nothing was gained and huge expenses were paid. Syria is the same mess, which is why we are so reluctant to do much else other than drop bombs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonatine185 View Post

    Chiang Kai Shek could have won the war in China and modern day China would be a democratic one.
    I tend to doubt that. He seemed to be the other side of the coin from the communists.

    I am not sure China can ever be democratic. The danger of political fracture with many disparate regions is huge without strong centralized control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Are there any other kind?
    Why to support the regims and not people? Supporting the wrong side ( minority, whether the unpopular regime or an armed minority) had cost US alot already. Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, and many more had turned against US because of supporting the wrong side. Even though US is changing policies in Iran, Cuba and some other countries, we have still the same situation in Saudi, Yemen, Bahrein, and most other countries in the Islamic world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonatine185 View Post
    The US war in Iraq and war in Syria to dethrone authoritarian regimes have now destabilized the region leading to the rise of terrorist organizations such as ISIS.
    I would argue our failure to commit to those wars and our withdrawal from Iraq lead to the rise of ISIS. It is likely they would have existed anyway since Saddam's biological weapons would still have ended up in Syria and the Arab Spring would likely still have happened thus causing Assad to lose power and radical groups like ISIS and Al-Nusra rising to fill the power gap.

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