[Spoilers!] Illidan Novel

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yeah the new lore sucks

I liked it far better before all those new revelations lol

now it's just THE LIGHT, THE VOID how complex and diverse

huehuehue, I shouldn't have expected anything but garbage to be fair

There is nothing new about the Light and the Void, just that they were the responsible for the creation of the universe.

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No, because Light is a zealotry cosmic douche. See what happened with the Blood Elves, see what happened with the Broken.

it seemed to have worked just fine for the Scarlets and the Twilight's Hammer dudes too

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There is nothing new about the Light and the Void, just that they were the responsible for the creation of the universe.

Uhm the Void Lords? The new reason(the 3rd by now actually) why Sargeras went nuts?

[Zulkhan]

and that's why the pantheon died in the first place
and that's why it doesn't make sense how sarg "a being of Arcane" could consume and transform into "being of fel"

Sargeras got slowly used to Fel by fighting demons for thousands and thousands of years. The rest of the Pantheon were like babies who never took a cold before.

So why then don't they use the Light? Because they're stupid?

Or because there's no god damn reason and this lore just sucks?

The Blood Elves lost their connection because they fell prey of desperation and began to blame the Light for all their problems. When they stopped being whiny bitches, they managed to get it back.

Again, the Light isn't a power source like any other. Like the Void, it both influences and gets influenced by a person's soul and mind. This is the difference with Arcane and Fel, Arcane only needs a lot of study and Fel not even that.

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Sargeras got slowly used to Fel by fighting demons for thousands and thousands of years. The rest of the Pantheon were like babies who never took a cold before.



The Blood Elves lost their connection because they fell prey of desperation and began to blame the Light for all their problems. When they stopped being whiny bitches, they managed to get it back.

Again, the Light isn't a power source like any other. Like the Void, it both influences and gets influenced by a person's soul and mind. This is the difference with Arcane and Fel, Arcane only needs a lot of study and Fel not even that.

How convenient, that the magic powered by feelings is the strongest.

Junior highschool level writing.

And of course, because good guys have to win, the Light for (insert reason) is stronger than the Void and the universe is saved. Hooray.

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it seemed to have worked just fine for the Scarlets and the Twilight's Hammer dudes too

Wonder why...

Uhm the Void Lords?

What about them? A void dimension is not new, it was introduced back in TBC and was hinted several times (like in Velen's prophecy).

[Skorpionss]

More like character homicide.

The entire character of Illidan is that of a selfish douchebag, that's what makes him interesting.

This makes him not interesting.

Lol, no, gtfo with this.

[Zulkhan]

huehuehue, I shouldn't have expected anything but garbage to be fair

Admit it man, you're just pissed that the all-mighty god Sargeras is nothing but a bitch stuck between two mastodontic cosmic forces lmao

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Wonder why...



What about them? A void dimension is not new, it was introduced back in TBC and was hinted several times (like in Velen's prophecy).

They're suddenly the reason why Sargeras went nuts.

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Admit it man, you're just pissed that the all-mighty god Sargeras is nothing but a bitch stucked between two cosmic forces lmao

Yes, yes I am.

And that's why this new garbage lore sucks.

Two opposing cosmic forces dictating things is just boring imo. Far more interesting to have civilzations clash and that to be the center of it all, instead of Black vs White, literally. If Blizzard writers weren't so bad, we'd have the lore revolve around the Titans and their conflict with another civilization, i.e the Legion. Oh well, a good old Good vs. Evil story, as simple as it gets, is totally better. Got it.

They absolutely butchered the Starcraft lore in the same way.

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Again, the Light isn't a power source like any other. Like the Void, it both influences and gets influenced by a person's soul and mind. This is the difference with Arcane and Fel, Arcane only needs a lot of study and Fel not even that.

It's funny to see how one can reach Light or Void. For the Light, it's through believe and zealotry, for the Void, through insanity. They are so close and that might explain why the Cathedral became a Void nest.

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They're suddenly the reason why Sargeras went nuts.

Wrong, he was already nuts. The discovery of the Old Gods and the Void Lords simply sent Sargeras to overdrive.

[Zulkhan]

How convenient, that the magic powered by feelings is the strongest.

Junior highschool level writing.

It was the same in Star Wars, it is in countless other fictions.

Good = stronger but harder to harness

Evil = weaker but easier to use

Besides, the Light is not alone in that. The Void is the same, it works on "feelings", except is super fucking evil.

And of course, because good guys have to win, the Light for (insert reason) is stronger than the Void and the universe is saved. Hooray.

The Light is stronger than Fel, not necessarily stronger of the Void. And we always knew that, the Light was always super effective against demons and undead.

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Two opposing cosmic forces dictating things is just boring imo. Far more interesting to have civilzations clash and that to be the center of it all, instead of Black vs White, literally.

Ever seen Babylon 5? The show was literally because Light vs. Shadow, at the end the galactic races told to the Vorlons and the Shadows to get the hell out of the galaxy.

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It was the same in Star Wars, it is in countless other fictions.

Good = stronger but harder to harness

Evil = weaker but easier to use

Besides, the Light is not alone in that. The Void is the same, it works on "feelings", except is super fucking evil.



The Light is stronger than Fel, not necessarily stronger of the Void. And we always knew that, the Light was always super effective against demons and undead.

Yeah Star Wars sucks for the same reason. Stories made for simpletons.

In a good story, evil people are more powerful and screw everybody over, because that's what actually happens in the real world lol. In a good story, you have countless shades of gray and complex characters.

Sith vs Jedi, Hobbit vs Orc is why I hate both Star Wars and LOTR, at the end of the day both of these franchises are extremely immature and simple.

WoW's lore used to be far more than that. Alas, no longer.

[Zulkhan]

Yes, yes I am.

And that's why this new garbage lore sucks.

Two opposing cosmic forces dictating things is just boring imo. Far more interesting to have civilzations clash and that to be the center of it all, instead of Black vs White, literally. If Blizzard writers weren't so bad, we'd have the lore revolve around the Titans and their conflict with another civilization, i.e the Legion. Oh well, a good old Good vs. Evil story, as simple as it gets, is totally better. Got it.

They absolutely butchered the Starcraft lore in the same way.

Lol which civilizations, it was a good vs evil crap all along. Titans were inherently good, the Legion and the demons inherently evil with Sargeras gone bonkers because fight demons was pointless. It was still us against him, and the final result was still Us = Good, Sargeras = Bad.

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Ever seen Babylon 5? The show was literally because Light vs. Shadow, at the end the galactic races told to the Vorlons and the Shadows to get the hell out of the galaxy.

Nah, I haven't. But I'm sure I'd despise it.

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Lol which civilizations, it was a good vs evil crap all along. Titans were inherently good, the Legion and the demons inherently evil with Sargeras gone bonkers because fight demons was pointless. It was still us against him, and the final result was still Us = Good, Sargeras = Bad.

The thing is, it was races against different races. A clash of civilizations, not cosmic forces per se.

On one hand you had the Titans and their worlds, on the other hand you had Sargeras and the Legion's. The lore could have expanded on that so much and it would have been great.

Now this conflict is completely overshadowed by the greater forces . Completely undermining everything Warcraft is about. They've ruined everything.

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Nah, I haven't. But I'm sure I'd despise it.

One of the best sci-fi TV shows ever.

[Zulkhan]

In a good story, evil people are more powerful and screw everybody over, because that's what actually happens in the real world lol

Except we're not talking of people but cosmic powers. Fel is destructive and easily accessible, that's it. No law whatsoever says that it needed to be stronger because reasons.

Light being stronger because it requires a bloody effort to use it makes sense. And still, Void can be as much as strong.

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Except we're not talking of people but comsic powers. Fel is destructive and easily accessible, that's it. No law whatsoever says that it needed to be stronger because reasons.

Light being stronger because it requires a bloody effort to use it make sense. And still, Void can be as much as strong.

Fel literally requires you to be ruthless and sacrifice things (people/life). It's as evil as it gets. Yet it's weaker than feelings magic.

Great writing.

[steelballfc]

we are running on circle's here
stop this now

[Zulkhan]

Fel literally requires you to be ruthless and sacrifice things (people/life). It's as evil as it gets. Yet it's weaker than feelings magic.

Fel is risky because it's super corruptive/destructive magic. Its destructive potential is far superior to the Arcane, even though the Arcane requires actual efforts to be learned. Of course you pay some price for the easy way.

Point is, Light and Void are both utterly above these magics, because these are the fundamental foundations of the universe.

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Fel is risky because it's super corruptive/destructive magic. Its destructive potential is far superior to the Arcane, even though the Arcane requires actual efforts to be learned, but of course you pay some price for the easy way.

Point is, Light and Void are both utterly above these magics, because these are the fundamental foundations of the universe.

And I fucking hate it.

It undermines everything, by clearly establishing Good and Evil. (Or at least something really close to it..)

Before, you had Titans vs Demons, with the Titans being pragmatic and not connected to the Light per se, destroying entire worlds etc and the Demons having civilizations instead of being Walking Black Holes like the Void Lords.

Now the Titans are gone, the Demons are the galactic pest control and ultimately the story is now about the Light and the Void and no longer about a conflict of peoples or morality.

I just wanted something completely different and I don't like the new bad guys and the impact they have on the lore, I guess.