Classic World of Warcraft Discussion [Megathread]

[Eleccybubb]

How about "Grand Inquisitors of Legacy"? It has an ominous ring to it.

Ohhh even better. Grand Vizier!

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I've worked in the industry long enough to know that it's a simple identity protection issue. Otherwise, Kern would've had to also hide his date, but he did not. Because the issue is so controversial, it's both in Blizzard and Nostalrius interest to keep the date private.



I certainly hope not XD Though personally I don't mind them calling themselves whatever they want. All I care about is results, whom deliver it is not really important to me.

Exactly. Last time we got jack shit in the way of results.

[Relapses]

Ohhh even better. Grand Vizier!

But then they'd have to start over again each time the developers held a conference in the room on the right.

[Zandalarian Paladin]

Exactly. Last time we got jack shit in the way of results.

Here's to hope it'll change. Something went in motion, that's factual - pristine, petition, meetings. So we know there's something going on.

Now the question is what's their next step - and what's their plan. Obviously Blizzard accepting to receive the paper petition and to meet with Kern this week is, in itself, an acknowledgement of this whole situation. If this ends up with legacy or not remains to be seen, but in any case I'll be happy.

[Chrno]

Here's to hope it'll change. Something went in motion, that's factual - pristine, petition, meetings. So we know there's something going on.

Now the question is what's their next step - and what's their plan. Obviously Blizzard accepting to receive the paper petition and to meet with Kern this week is, in itself, an acknowledgement of this whole situation. If this ends up with legacy or not remains to be seen, but in any case I'll be happy.

if nothing happens i won't be happy
But i'll put it to rest knowing we did our best I wouldn't feel guilty about playing on a private server at least

[Zandalarian Paladin]

if nothing happens i won't be happy
But i'll put it to rest knowing we did our best I wouldn't feel guilty about playing on a private server at least

That seems to be the general consensus. But considering there's so many alternatives, it's more a matter of principle. I'd rather play on an official Blizzard platform than a tierce party, whom can be fraudulent or shady in their practices. Although for the moment, there's quite an array of old-school servers thriving both in quality and in population.

[imzhell]

I am a retail player but I would definitely vote for it to stay up because not everyone has the buying power to pay for subs, but wow being a beautiful game, a lot of players still want to play it. Whats the point taking down the legacy server?

[Eliseus]

What do they mean by "security reason"? I doubt some anti legacy nut is gonna kidnap em or something.

Read my signature. Remember that guy? Would be not surprised if he would do something.

[Thimagryn]

Read my signature. Remember that guy? Would be not surprised if he would do something.

he was prolly talking about the toxic pro legacy peeps that were 'attacking' him. He even says a post later he'd want to see legacy servers.

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I hope something comes out from the meeting with blizz and nost.
But who knows, would suprise me definetly

[Uurdz]

he was prolly talking about the toxic pro legacy peeps that were 'attacking' him. He even says a post later he'd want to see legacy servers.

Nah man that guy had a YouTube channel in his sig and he goes full crazy, compares pro-legacy players to Isis and hopes they jump of a bridge and die. I think he hated how noobs got treated in vanilla (spoiler: not well) and viewed anyone pro-legacy as being any of those old school meanies

[Thimagryn]

Yes, which is exactly supporting what I'mm saying. He's attacking the pro legacy people with empty threats. Yet the post right after Elis' sig quote has the guy saying he actually wants to see Legacy servers happen. To me, that doesn't sound like a 'security' threat to Mike Morhaime or Mark Kern. It sounds like scapegoating a fanatic for the sake of it.

[Deleted]

Yes, which is exactly supporting what I'mm saying. He's attacking the pro legacy people with empty threats. Yet the post right after Elis' sig quote has the guy saying he actually wants to see Legacy servers happen. To me, that doesn't sound like a 'security' threat to Mike Morhaime or Mark Kern. It sounds like scapegoating a fanatic for the sake of it.

Are you guys actually debating wheater or not there is a security risk involved in this?

Thats hilarious. I honestly didnt think anyone would care so much about a legacy server.

Thats really pathetic

[Thimagryn]

Are you guys actually debating wheater or not there is a security risk involved in this?

Thats hilarious. I honestly didnt think anyone would care so much about a legacy server.

Thats really pathetic

It is pathetic. Because there's literally nothing to discuss about Legacy servers. Is it happening yet? Nope. Are the meetings here yet? Nope. Carry on then.

[Uurdz]

Yes, which is exactly supporting what I'mm saying. He's attacking the pro legacy people with empty threats. Yet the post right after Elis' sig quote has the guy saying he actually wants to see Legacy servers happen. To me, that doesn't sound like a 'security' threat to Mike Morhaime or Mark Kern. It sounds like scapegoating a fanatic for the sake of it.

Sorry I wasn't clear but in his YouTube rant video he very clearly states he doesn't want legacy servers
Evidence: https://youtu.be/-xK_v_qBpHE

[Gadzooks]

Prove wrong? There's nothing to prove right or wrong.

And, I never once told anyone to "fuck off" in this thread - but the child likes to lie about me, because nothing else he's tried to keep me quiet has worked.

In fact, I've never been warned or actioned by the mods in this thread once. If I'd been running around telling people to "fuck off", I would have been. But I wasn't...but someone else was.

Facts. They do plague him. But it's hilarious to see him cry.

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Indeed, whenever a anti-legacy zealot voices his/her opinion, that opinion somehow turns into facts (because they say so..). Those who does not share anti-legacy warriors' opinions ("facts"), are wrong.

Simply adorable.

[Aehl]

Here is the plain facts on the matter

Nostalrius proves that a lot of people will flock to a free server promising a vanilla experience that involves not giving any money to the people involved in making the original game

So all these claims of people that will "pay for a Vanilla experience like that one"..they werent paying.

At all.

They want their Vanilla servers..but arent and werent prepared to pay for them.

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. Whats the point taking down the legacy server?

It was illegal, it was a pirate site, it was stealing copyrighted materials.

Will that do?

[Jeniwyn]

They want their Vanilla servers..but arent and werent prepared to pay for them.

There is no way to pay for it, we want there to be.

Players who have played wow on and off for many many years have sort of demonstrated their willingness to pay a sub fee for playing a game they enjoy. Why exactly shouldn't this apply to a game that we care about as much as many of us evidently do?

[Relapses]

There is no way to pay for it, we want there to be.

Players who have played wow on and off for many many years have sort of demonstrated their willingness to pay a sub fee for playing a game they enjoy. Why exactly shouldn't this apply to a game that we care about as much as many of us evidently do?

Some more reasonable people may be willing to pay for it but there's no proof that all Nost players would. In fact, look at how many of the perceived "fans" of Nost got pissed off when the developers told them they wouldn't be sharing the source code. Many of them just said, "Fuck you guys, I'll go play another (free) private server." Seeing as the popularity of K2 skyrocketed at the same time Nost got shut down, I'd say that's exactly what most of them did.

[Eleccybubb]

Some more reasonable people may be willing to pay for it but there's no proof that all Nost players would. In fact, look at how many of the perceived "fans" of Nost got pissed off when the developers told them they wouldn't be sharing the source code. Many of them just said, "Fuck you guys, I'll go play another (free) private server." Seeing as the popularity of K2 skyrocketed at the same time Nost got shut down, I'd say that's exactly what most of them did.

Still don't understand why people would think Nost would have shared the source code. They would have been royally fucked had they done so.

[Uurdz]

Here is my opinion on the matter



So all these claims of people that will "pay for a Vanilla experience like that one"..they werent paying.

At all.

They want their Vanilla servers..butthere is currently no evidence to prove they areprepared to pay for them.

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It was illegal, it was a pirate site, it was stealing copyrighted materials.

Will that do?

Mate. Did you copy paste that response from the first page or something? We've been through this many many times also, fixed your post by adding red text.

People widely accept it was illegal and a legit move to shut down
People accept there is no evidence to prove any <x> number of players WILL or WILL NOT pay to play on Vanilla Servers
Some people believe there is sufficient demand for Vanilla servers which will last long enough to make Blizzard invest in making Vanilla servers available
Some people disagree for various legitimate reasons.

Please take some time to read through the thread or at the very least prose your post in the form of questions seeking clarification.
Private Servers have been around for AGES and people have not had as much interest as the Nostralius server generated. Ever. You fact, is just an opinion mate.