Classic World of Warcraft Discussion [Megathread]

[Darsithis]

Keep it civil. Stop baiting people by calling them "kid".

[Kolvarg]

I never played EQ, but from what I understand all that separates WoW from EQ was time. For example, it took hours for a boat to travel between continents when in WoW it's every few minutes. That's more of a quality of life than being casual. Also, just because WoW was made more "accessible" doesn't mean the game was originally meant for a casual audience. That's like taking a Vanilla pudding and then someone adds some cinnamon and now you declare it a cinnamon pudding. Nowadays Blizzard has been pouring so much Cinnamon that it really is a Cinnamon pudding. It's like the Cinnamon Challenge where it's making you want to throw up.

I think accessible is actually what people mostly mean when it's said that Vanilla was casual, or that WoW today is casual. Vanilla was accessible back then in comparison to Everquest and such games at that time. Live WoW is accessible in comparison to Vanilla.

Especially in Vanilla vs Everquest case, I suppose (never played EQ and don't know that much myself).

On the Vanilla vs Current case I suppose Casual fits a bit better as Vanilla required more dedication/commitement in all fronts to complete the content, whereas currently the content that required dedication/commitment is completly optional (ie you can see almost all quests, dungeons and raids without getting into the harder modes).

(PS: Love and peace!)

[Kyzr]

Keep it civil. Stop baiting people by calling them "kid".

It's a southern thing more than a "baiting" thing, but okie dokie.

[Deficineiron]

In all honesty I think this was always going to be the most likely outcome regarding a Blizzcon announcement.

yes, it avoids the (unlikely) yes and also avoids simply saying no never period (which I would have been baffled to have seen them do on this occasion) even if that in fact is their decision.

[Eleccybubb]

I think accessible is actually what people mostly mean when it's said that Vanilla was casual, or that WoW today is casual. Vanilla was accessible back then in comparison to Everquest and such games at that time. Live WoW is accessible in comparison to Vanilla.

Especially in Vanilla vs Everquest case, I suppose (never played EQ and don't know that much myself).

On the Vanilla vs Current case I suppose Casual fits a bit better as Vanilla required more dedication/commitement in all fronts to complete the content, whereas currently the content that required dedication/commitment is completly optional (ie you can see almost all quests, dungeons and raids without getting into the harder modes).

(PS: Love and peace!)

Vanilla was the casual alternative to EQ and Dark Age of Camelot no doubt about that. But compared to back then WoW is way more accessible today than it ever has been.

[Kolvarg]

https://i.imgsafe.org/0f9eb9ef90.jpg

The plot thickens. (Or not. No context on that, from /wowservers reddit)

[Jaylock]

What fucking word? They never promised shit or gave us their word along the lines of Pristine or Legacy happening. Pristine was just a basic idea they had to shut people up and they said they would be looking into Legacy and that they will not be discussing it at Blizzcon. Knew it wouldn't take long before people came in here spouting garbage like "but blizzard gave me their word" or "blizzard promised us". Absolutely laughable.

I agree with @Eleccybubb here. Blizzard gave no promise of anything, they just said they would look into pristine servers.

Personally I can't wait for Blizzard to shoot the idea of Legacy servers down and quiet down the few people who still want them.

[Pann]

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The plot thickens. (Or not. No context on that, from /wowservers reddit)

Interesting, that looks like a picture of large banner or screen rather than a screen shot. Although it could well be fake.

[Eleccybubb]

I agree with @Eleccybubb here. Blizzard gave no promise of anything, they just said they would look into pristine servers.

Personally I can't wait for Blizzard to shoot the idea of Legacy servers down and quiet down the few people who still want them.

I want them. i just know nothing was promised, hinted, heavily implied or given word on. Actually they did say they would look into the possibility of Legacy and threw Pristine at us which was heavily shot down and criticised. Pristine just wouldn't work unless they tuned levelling to make it harder again. Levelling currently is already easy without heirlooms, potions and buffs it just takes a bit longer.

[Jaylock]

I want them. i just know nothing was promised, hinted, heavily implied or given word on.

I definitely agree with you here. Nothing was hinted or promised at all.

[Worgoblin]

https://i.imgsafe.org/0f9eb9ef90.jpg

The plot thickens. (Or not. No context on that, from /wowservers reddit)

OMG! Looks legit to me!

[Deleted]

I think it's very bad for Blizzard to not take the hype train going on right now.

If Nost relaunches and Blizzard doesn't announce legacy servers...everyone and their mothers is going to play on the Nost server and join the hype. Which is bad.
IF Blizzard said something in the lines of "We are already working on Legacy servers" everyone would wait for the official Blizzard's servers and not go play in some pirate server.

If Nost relaunches is going to be a shitfest of "Oh snap Blizzard, what are you going to do now?".
Nostalrius is getting to much publicity. I don't even know if MMO-C will allow this thread to live if Nostalrius decides to re-open. I guess mods would have to lock this thread or at least change the title.

[Kolvarg]

Interesting, that looks like a picture of large banner or screen rather than a screen shot. Although it could well be fake.

Aye. A pretty well made one, but most likely fake, sadly

[Kyzr]

I agree with @Eleccybubb here. Blizzard gave no promise of anything, they just said they would look into pristine servers.

Personally I can't wait for Blizzard to shoot the idea of Legacy servers down and quiet down the few people who still want them.

Same, but because I want Nost running the servers and not Blizzard.

[McNeil]

https://i.imgsafe.org/0f9eb9ef90.jpg

The plot thickens. (Or not. No context on that, from /wowservers reddit)

There's quite a history of blurred images being fake. Looks cool though, hope its real.

[Ebalina]

Legacy servers need to die already please move on with the time.

[Jaylock]

Same, but because I want Nost running the servers and not Blizzard.

I hope that blizzard nixes the idea all together, but I suppose IF they do happen to create some partnership with another company (nostalrious) then I hope that they still charge the $15 per month subscription fee, and maybe a classic server surcharge of another 3-5 dollars per month. So you would have access to both Legion, and the Nost servers.

Blizzard needs to profit off these players just like they do from regular paying customers.

[Vash The Stampede]

Keep it civil. Stop baiting people by calling them "kid".

But I am a kid. A Toys R Us Kid.

(PS: Love and peace!)

Ain't it the truth.

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The plot thickens. (Or not. No context on that, from /wowservers reddit)

Why does everything good have to be until 2017? What do I do in the mean time, play Legion? I could replay Dark Souls 2.

[Mahourai]

While there is evidence to support all of this being upgraded, what evidence (and not opinions) is there to support the claim that players have gotten better? Zero, zip, nada!

World first players in Vanilla (and even early TBC) were clicking their spells, typing messages to other people during the boss attempt, keyboard turning, autoattacking and zoning out when they have abilities up, not using voicecom to coordinate things, etc.

[Deleted]

Legacy servers need to die already please move on with the time.

The more the game moves forward the farther from the Vanilla experience it gets.
In retail its impossible to change LFR, LFG, Aggro management, Mana management, Transmog, epics rarity, server community, raid gating etc

And some people enjoy those aspects of the game.