WoD's failures go beyond just that stuff though. It's a culmination of lots of bad decisions over the years+ WoD that got them to change their mind on releasing subscriber numbers.
Yeah but how long was the content drought before Legion? 15 months again? We know how this game goes. WoW does give some content, then goes 4 or 5 months with nothing, then new content, and then you have to wait 15 months before you get new content again. It would be all fine and well if said content had a shelf life longer than a few months but at this point I don't know if we are ever going to go back to that type of system again.Funny. Legion isn't out for six months, and they already launched upgrades, by releasing Karazhan, and will soon release more upgrades, in the form of the Nighthold. Whereas, again, the trial account will remain the same unless you start paying.
PvP, questing, dungeons, and exploring the world. Like I said, the social experience for the trial account has almost no differences to actually paying for your account lol.Oh, this is rich. What is it that it retain that people want? Not being able to go above level 20? not being able to form parties? Not being able to join guilds? Not being able to level professions past 100?
A few things to clear up, the free trial players do see new content, MoP and Cata zones for example, they get to try all the classes, make up new toons, etc. Like I said, it's not a good experience, but it does pretty much offer the jist of the game more or less.Because no one wants to have their characters stuck at level 20 forever, unable to progress and even come close to endgame content.
Nice to see you're guessing that most didn't leave because they were unhappy with the game lol, so I guess everyone in WoD just decided to have kids, get a job, etc. but nothing like this happened in Wotlk, or it happened with less frequency? WoD was set to lose half of it's player base and it's safe to assume a lot more left after they stopped releasing the numbers. Did some people have real life issues come up? Sure. Did a lot leave because it stunk? Of course.Yes, "tens of millions have left WoW", but "tens of millions" did not leave WoW for the same reason. I imagine that the portion of those people who left who chose "because WoW is no longer like vanilla" or "because the game sucks now" as a reason to leave are but a small fraction of those. And I imagine a good portion of that small percentage has just moved on. Face it: you're talking about about a small percentage of a small percentage of players that left.
This thread is about one server in particular, Nost, and the Nost team's efforts for legacy servers. This is like implementing a rule that says you can't talk about off topic discussions on the off topic forum. Now you're just getting into some weird territory where you want to turn the server into Voldemort or something lol. "He who must not be named". Everyone is on the same page here.You obviously don't:
There's always new games coming out and the same was true when WoW was in it's infancy. Now doubt the market has changed somewhat but the fact still remains that WoW has lost a lot of it's dominance over the years.Different times. WoW didn't have even half the number of competitors it has today. Nowadays we have a new MMO or a new game being launched almost every week.
I'm not making sense because I used your own logic lol. If players naturally were going to Nostalrius because it was free, then it would make sense that players would be going to free Legion servers in droves as well, since they don't like spending money. Are you aware of any massively popular Legion private servers?I really don't see the connection you're trying to make, here. You're not making sense.
Yeah if you ignore the subscriber rate when Vanilla was out, the millions of players who have now left, as well as the success of Nostalrius as well, I can see how you can get to that conclusion. The problem my friend is that all of that stuff suggests legacy servers would do well. There's no arguments outside of speculation that the opposite is true.And there is nothing that would support it, either, other than your opinion. You have given us nothing to back up your claims other than your opinions.
It's interesting that you think people that get married or that have families or jobs just stop playing video games or engaging in leisurely activities. What you suggests though is in no shape or form true though. Do you think all of us on mmo-champ are unemployed?Wow. That is honestly all you got with 'people change over time'? How about having a family? A wife/husband and kids, plus their daily activities, leaving them little time to play an online game, much less one so demanding as vanilla WoW? Or how about simply have moved on from MMOs and prefer to play FPS or video-games, instead? Or how about someone who now has to work two jobs, leaving him with no time to play online games that demand heavy time investments to even begin to be 'fun'?
Broke the rules to promote Blizzard's core principles. The good word definitely exists as well!Someone who willingly broke the rules, to be exact. There's no 'good word', there.
You're asking to show math on something that hasn't happened yet lol. Surely you can understand why this is a silly thing to ask.PROVE IT. Show us your math that proves that legacy servers are not only profitable, but cheaper than retail.
No. The reason they became a juggernaut was, as follows: Rock'n'Roll Racing, Warcraft 1, 2 and 3, Diablo 1 and 2, Blackthorne, The Lost Vikings, and Starcraft. 'Vanilla WoW' was built upon the foundation laid by the previous Warcraft games.
There's plenty of successful games from blizzard, pretending that Starcraft for example, while popular, was on the same scale as WoW is completely silly. Great game, no disagreements there, as successful as WoW? Not even close.
You ask for proof yet provide none yourself. As I've said frequently, this is all speculation, from educated guesses of course. You can use information from the past to make predictions on the future, you know?PROVE IT. I'm tired of people like you making dumb, unfounded assertions and stating them as fact without having a single shred of evidence to back it up.
Saying they didn't have the source code for Vanilla ring a bell?What lies? Come on, show me some of those lies. Back up your claims.
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If you gave it a try for a month, back when it was up, you'd be agreeing with me.