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    Swedish National Police Chief: " We can not guarantee your safety."

    Not sure if article source is legit, satire, or outright bogus.

    Source: http://speisa.com/modules/articles/i...e-anymore.html

    The Swedish national police chief, Dan Eliasson, said during a panel discussion recently that he is "surprised how bad it is" and that he "can not guarantee the safety" of residents in parts of Sweden anymore.

    According to the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter, Sweden now has 53 areas considered to be particularly infested with crime. Here, police has to respond to calls with two police cars, one to guard the other or it will go up in flames or be vandalized.

    The Swedish newspaper Expressen, writes that the national police chief, Dan Eliasson, during a panel discussion admitted that he is surprised by the severe crime in Sweden.

    - I have been surprised after I became national police chief how bad it is in certain areas during the evenings. If we do not constrain the development I am convinced that not only traditional crime but also radicalization and terrorism is going to increase in our society.

    It was in connection with a panel discussion about terrorist threats the national police chief warned against developments in some districts in Sweden.

    He mentioned, among other places, Alby, Fittja, Tensta, Rinkeby, Araby and Rosengård, where Swedish society is torn apart.

    According to national police chief they have identified 14 areas where life can be described as "difficult", but he says these areas are not so-called "no-go zones" in any way, despite the fact that the police always must use two squad cars when they enter the areas - thus making it the very definition of a no-go zone.

    Sweden has experienced several murders on the streets recently, and at the asylum centers in the country.

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    Don't tell me that you are unfamilliar with the lovable american concept known as ''benevolent neglect'' ?

    Edit : benign neglect

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    Not sure if article source is legit, satire, or outright bogus.

    Source: http://speisa.com/modules/articles/i...e-anymore.html
    Okay seriously....

    Can this forum just ban anything regarding sweden and politics? Because I'm getting tired of all these "bullshit" news that makes the situation seem completely unmanagable etc etc...

    Most of those areas listed there? Perfectly fine areas to visit and hang around in, sure if you're going to be disrespectfull and/or racist, I would suggest you dont push your luck, people get mad if insulted you know?

    Regardless, I've been abroad, alot and sweden is still the country I feel the most safe in, I havent seen violence or crime in... I honestly dont know, it's more than 10 years for sure.

    It happens, ofc it does, but its no more commonplace than any other western country, and in most cases there is probably less crime and violence...

    So yeah, I honestly dont get why this forum and the world in general is so stuck on sweden, I live here, have been for 26 years and it's just as peacefull as its always been, if anything it's just gotten more accepting. Except for one point lately, Racism and Nazism is starting to run rampart... and as a result the people targeted by such ideals are ofc going to get scared and hateful... Makes pretty good sense, no?

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    Why is two cars a big deal?
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    So can anyone confirm of the police chief did or did not say those words?

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    isnt this like few years old already?

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    Apparently, Americans love to tell ''weak Europeans'' that their cities are run over ''by dangerous uncontrollable migrants''

    While making threads about their own cities being warzones justifying packing heat all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapo View Post
    isnt this like few years old already?
    There are always mixed results, you get Swedish people saying its all made up then other Swedish people saying its not. So I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    Why is two cars a big deal?
    I dunno, I would find it kind of odd that a secondary car is always mandatory in an area so the first one doesn't get set on fire.

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    You got some pretty lousy police in Sweden it seems. Can't even do their job properly.
    You can't fix stupid. But damn it you can troll it!

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    I just want to know if the Police Chief really said those words, the rest is sort of secondary beyond that. If the police chief never said those words then the rest could be verified as bullshit.

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    Well, we could say here that some other countries have police forces so bad that their citizens are repeatedly bragging that they have guns on them all the time to execute store robbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    I just want to know if the Police Chief really said those words, the rest is sort of secondary beyond that. If the police chief never said those words then the rest could be verified as bullshit.
    Logic command that a ''no gone zone'' that involve sending two cars instead of one is not really a no-go zone, since it's a no-go zone where you go.

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    It's what the people of Sweden want though, isn't it?

    It's their self-created paradise of a country.

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    Honestly can any Police Chief anywhere Guarantee your safety?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeyenut88 View Post
    Honestly can any Police Chief anywhere Guarantee your safety?
    No, but to come out and state such to the press / public is a different matter entirely.

    The modern police force is more about perception and customer service than any other factor.

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    I cannot find anything regarding what he said but the lack of police presence is a thing because they had to divert them to handle immigration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hif View Post
    You got some pretty lousy police in Sweden it seems. Can't even do their job properly.
    Not sure about that. They're are just heavily strained with several police officers leaving the police because of poor wages and increasing work burden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalkinDude View Post
    How can anyone "guarantee" safety. Short of having armed guards surrounding you 24/7, anyone is at some level of risk. I was in Amsterdam last year and saw someone get mugged right on the street. That doesn't mean Amsterdam is unsafe or the Dutch police are inept. It just means that humans are all individual agents of action, capable of doing good or bad at any point. If the Chief actually said this, he's basically stating what any rational person already acknowledges.
    That is like the TSA having a banner stating "We cannot guarantee your plane will not blow up today" as soon as you walk into the airport. I think you may be missing the overall point.

    If you run a company and your product has a 0.00001% chance of blowing up and killing your customer, are you going to put that label on the product? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    I dunno, I would find it kind of odd that a secondary car is always mandatory in an area so the first one doesn't get set on fire.

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    Now, I live in Florida so it may just be because all the crazies down here- but standard OP for Police Departments and Sheriff Offices here is to wait for a second unit during any calls; it's nothing new and their reluctance to enter a volatile neighborhood without backup doesn't qualify that area as a "no-go zone", the police will go there- they just want to be prepared.

    Sensationalism at its best though. *Golfclap*

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    No, but to come out and state such to the press / public is a different matter entirely.

    The modern police force is more about perception and customer service than any other factor.
    These people arent exactly "media-trained" so they say what's on their mind. Probably doesnt think about the consequences of the statement. Regardless, this is the first time i read this statement so i can't confirm or verify it.

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    I thought we were going to be discussing a press conference put on by Swedish chef. This seems a much less enjoyable alternative.
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