Sweden has to hire 90,000 teachers in 3 years

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Get 160k 2015, about 110k 2014 and it's 200k in 3 years? I have no idea how you're counting.

The numbers aren't finalised until they get an answer on their visa application, so there is a lag of 1-2 years in the numbers.
the 2015 and 2016 aren't there yet.

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I'm talking about germany not europe. A big reason for the skill-gap is the lack of communication between labor-providers, laborers and the ones that provide knowledge.
Again "refugees" that don't speak the respective knowledge help noone.

Germany is not special. They have the same problem. Skill gap is an issue.
The EU commission has a different outlook on the economic effects of this crisis on our economy.

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Of course you do Mooneye. There is no threat to european society based on the numbers shown this year, yet you've been shouting doom for months now.

I don't care about european society. I care about Swedish society. There are a huge amount of problems tied to the refugee reception in Sweden, that's a fact. That's not "feels".

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I never said we took that many refugees, so I don't know why you're even aiming this at me. I responded solely to your post about 200k in 3 years.

Yeah, that post was in regards to that. Quoting out of context is awesome, right? And the 200k in 3 years is demographic change, not number of refugees or asylum applications.

Still waiting for your numbers though, i would love to see for my self, since you´ve accused me of not looking at them for myself. topkek

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I don't care about european society. I care about Swedish society. There are a huge amount of problems tied to the refugee reception in Sweden, that's a fact. That's not "feels".

See? Dont accuse others.

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I've only been shot at and had bombs detonated by me from Jihadist, but I'm sure you're much more informed than I living in your bubble.

Im sure that makes you an expert on islam lol.

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See? Dont accuse others.

I'm not accusing anyone when I acknowledge that they're arguing based on feels. They're free to do that, but feels do not trump available and known data.

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I'm not accusing anyone when I acknowledge that they're arguing based on feels. They're free to do that, but feels do not trump available and known data.

Yup. Keep that in mind.

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Yup. Keep that in mind.

Keep what in mind? People are trying to argue AGAINST known and available data based on feels. It's tiresome. People say that somehow taking refugees will solve a demographic crisis. Yet after 8 years in Sweden, only 25% of them have a real job, including jobs where the state pays 80% of their pay to give incentive to employers to hire them. Exactly how will that solve a demographic crisis by importing mass unemployment or people who rely on the state paying their pay so people will hire them?

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Of course you do Mooneye. There is no threat to european society based on the numbers shown this year, yet you've been shouting doom for months now.

Sweden takes in 35% of European refugees, and is 1.9% of the population.
Feel free to add this data to your 'reasoning'.

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Sweden takes in 35% of European refugees, and is 1.9% of the population.
Feel free to add this data to your 'reasoning'.

What are european refugees?

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Keep what in mind? People are trying to argue AGAINST known and available data based on feels. It's tiresome. People say that somehow taking refugees will solve a demographic crisis. Yet after 8 years in Sweden, only 25% of them have a real job, including jobs where the state pays 80% of their pay to give incentive to employers to hire them. Exactly how will that solve a demographic crisis by importing mass unemployment?

Allow low paid jobs to be part of your society and watch those rates get lower. If you dont, accept whats happening or have more kids. Those are your options.

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Germany is not special. They have the same problem. Skill gap is an issue.
The EU commission has a different outlook on the economic effects of this crisis on our economy.

Then please explain to me how people with almost no proper knowledge help.

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Allow low paid jobs to be part of your society and watch those rates get lower. If you dont, accept whats happening or have more kids. Those are your options.

Or... Or... We could change our immigration policy to actually work instead of having this trainwreck.

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Sweden takes in 35% of European refugees, and is 1.9% of the population.
Feel free to add this data to your 'reasoning'.

Italy and Greece take way more illegals. So it could be worse.

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Or... Or... We could change our immigration policy to actually work instead of having this trainwreck.

And face demographic crisis in 40 years. Sure.

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Then please explain to me how people with almost no proper knowledge help.

Not all jobs require x amount of education.

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Or... Or... We could change our immigration policy to actually work instead of having this trainwreck.

You´re never going to answer my questions? Ok, well then go ahead argue based on feels.

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Not all jobs require x amount of education.

Most jobs like that here is gotten through contacts, which refugees have close to none of. Mostly thanks to EBO.

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Most jobs like that here is gotten through contacts, which refugees have close to none of. Mostly thanks to EBO.

Of course policies like these will need to be addressed.

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Of course policies like these will need to be addressed.

Yeah, well, they're trying to but apparently it's bad telling refugees that they shouldn't be going in masses to already heavily segregated areas where they can't get any contacts that could get them a job, since loads of people in those areas are in the same situation. EBO is a law that makes it possible for them to choose where to live on their own, the segregation is a consequence of that.

http://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/ska...over-ebo-lagen

The social democrats coalition partner wants to keep it the way it is now, for some fucking reason.

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That picture sure makes its rounds on the internet. If you google it, you'll get sources like Rightpedia, PurposeToPower, and goddamn Stormfront. Pretty well known what those are about. Even ads like this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeA0GzGW4AEIRRF.jpg

Guilt by association doesn't work anymore. The fact is, the picture illustrates something very bad for Sweden.

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Look at all those highly educated engineers and doctors were letting in!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=495_1460298445