Why is Democracy Spring Getting ZERO Attention?

[Nadiru]

There's no such thing as a left wing fascist. The fascist ideology is far right wing by definition, much like pure communism is far left.

The Fascist platform in Italy mandated free college for everybody, clean water and food, and for workers to be given leisure time and a reasonable wage. None of those are right-wing positions. In the elections of 1933 in the Weimar Republic, the largest voter bloc which defected from their party to the Nazi party were all former far-left or center-left voters.

[Grummgug]

Look at the UK, they have a big limit on the campaign funds you can use and ban television ad's and the like for elections.

That doesn't address what I'm talking about. Big donors will start buying TV networks and movie production companies.

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The Fascist platform in Italy mandated free college for everybody, clean water and food, and for workers to be given leisure time and a reasonable wage. None of those are right-wing positions. In the elections of 1933 in the Weimar Republic, the largest voter bloc which defected from their party to the Nazi party were all former far-left or center-left voters.

Its pretty amazing how not only ignorant people are of history, but how arrogant they are on top of it. They have no idea what fascism was. Sometimes I wonder if they seriously equate fascism with a free market economy or something. And then when they find out fascism involved Big Government and a bunch of government handouts, they are floored.

The candidate that most resembles a fascist in this election is...Bernie Sanders.

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Over 800 people were arrested in Washington D.C. this week while peacefully protesting money in politics. Where is the media coverage?

It's here, man

http://www.youtube.com/user/RTAmerica/videos

More arrests as Democracy Spring protest enters fifth day.

RT America
Apr 15, 2016



'Democracy Spring' protesters were back on the streets of Washington DC on Friday, for the fifth day of the action that is calling for money out of politics.

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[221] Democracy A-Spring & A Return To Homan Square.

Watching the Hawks RT
Apr 12, 2016



On this episode of “Watching the Hawks” Tyrel Ventura & Sean Stone go to Manila Chan to discuss the current “Democracy Spring” protests taking place at the Capitol in Washington DC. Tyrel and Sean discuss the newest revelations in the case of the Chicago PD black site known as Homan Square. Julia Azari gives us extended commentary on the potential for our current two party system to break apart this election season. Finally, Patrick Moore joins Sean Stone for a conversation on how alarming global warming predictions really are!

[Iamanerd]

Useless wall.

If it saves one women from being raped by an illegal invader...
If it saves one kid from being molested by an illegal invader...
If it saves one person from being murdered by an illegal invader...

...its worth every fucking penny.

But that's inconsequential because it will pay for itself in our lifetime.

The fiscal burden of this illegal invasion costs us hundreds of billions of dollars annually.

The money it saves future generations will fund everything America needs from new roads and bridges, to saving social security, to paying for college tuition.

Do you truly believe the shit coming out of your mouth? Seriously I'd love to know how this wall will do all this, please inform us. Waiting on those sources with some legit numbers not the shit you're fucking spewing over here.

[oplawlz]

"Why won't you just protest over in this designated area where you won't be seen, heard, or noticed at all?"

If your cause can only garner public interest by breaking the law, you should probably find a better cause.

[Zolaris192]

Instead of doing this ignorant crap they could just vote for trump
1. Only one self funding
2. Only candidate who has the balls to say what people are thinking
3. Only candidate who is a true leader (people follow the issues he is vocal about)

And for any SJWs in here that will call racist/xenophobic/islamiphobic save your breath because...

1. You can't form a solid argument to support those claims
2. Being triggered doesn't solve the problem and is not an argument

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Because if she's the nominee, the other possible options are to vote for Donald "I'm gonna piss away trillions building a useless wall!" Trump, Ted "Heil Jesus!" Cruz, or John "I'm not completely insane!" Kasich.

You are very uninformed

The best wall that can be built will cost 10-15 billion
Mexico will be made to pay for it
We spend 120 billion a year taking care of people in the United States illegally
"Mexico will never pay for that wall" ya lets see what their tune is when trump blocks western unions into their country

[Drutt]

The Fascist platform in Italy mandated free college for everybody, clean water and food, and for workers to be given leisure time and a reasonable wage. None of those are right-wing positions. In the elections of 1933 in the Weimar Republic, the largest voter bloc which defected from their party to the Nazi party were all former far-left or center-left voters.

I'm well aware that good-guy-bad-guy right wingers have been trying to disavow fascism for years. That doesn't change the fact that it's a far right wing ideology. The simple fact is the extremes of both wings start resembling each other in many ways. In general, left wing types don't flock to ideologies that espouse tradition, extreme nationalism, religious fanaticism and widespread anti-egalitarian principles.

Right wing cheerleaders can try to wash their hands of Hitler and Mussolini until the end of the time (much like left wing cheerleaders would love to palm off the likes of Pol Pot and Stalin) but you can't change facts and you can't change history (although you can lie about both). Fascism originated as a right wing political movement by conservatives and the core values are quite evidently conservative ones, as were the core supporters. Pointing as the occasional element you might consider to be left wing doesn't change that, any more than highlighting right wing elements of Stalin allows the left to palm him off.

Traditional French segmentation (the origin of the left/ring wing concept) broke the left/right into parties of movement and order respectively. Those are the core characteristics of each wing. There is nothing inherently wrong with either ideal, but both can be poorly applied and both have awful consequences when taken to extremes.

Fascism did not promote movement, it heavily promoted tradition and order.

[Macaquerie]

Instead of doing this ignorant crap they could just vote for trump
1. Only one self funding
2. Only candidate who has the balls to say what people are thinking
3. Only candidate who is a true leader (people follow the issues he is vocal about)

And for any SJWs in here that will call racist/xenophobic/islamiphobic save your breath because...

1. You can't form a solid argument to support those claims
2. Being triggered doesn't solve the problem and is not an argument

People aren't afraid of Trump because they're afraid of what he might do, since his plans are extremely impractical and don't have any chance of actually getting off the ground. People are afraid of his campaign because of what it reveals about us and how many steps back we've taken as a country. If you want to bend over and take your marching orders from a bloviating, self-important caricature of an alpha male who hasn't offered a single realistic policy, then that's your prerogative I guess, but ultimately you'll be the one to suffer when none of his promises materialize. Complain all you like about SJWs, that coastal liberal elite that you guys love to whine about is going to be pretty well off no matter what happens, it's the uneducated working class that suffers under the kind of unfocused and unprincipled leadership Trump brings to the table.

[Thunderball]

The Fascist platform in Italy mandated free college for everybody, clean water and food, and for workers to be given leisure time and a reasonable wage. None of those are right-wing positions. In the elections of 1933 in the Weimar Republic, the largest voter bloc which defected from their party to the Nazi party were all former far-left or center-left voters.

Mussolini was never the fascist we all know on behalf of Hitler and his party. Italian fascism was based on corporatism and nationalism, it was always about consolidating resources of people and state to create an empire. Corporatism is a centrist ideology, it combines socialist and capitalism practices. Mussolini was also a member of a socialist party before. It's not particular practices that defines an ideology, it's the whole package. It's not like parties in the US (which is probably the most right-wing leaning country in the world right now) dont take any traditionally left wing positions (and are being labelled as communists for that, which is HILLARIOUS).

[Spectral]

I'm puzzled by how these people don't have anything better to do with their time. I know, I know, they're all brave heroes for standing up to The Man, but seriously, who uses their vacation time on this shit?

[Xeones]

Instead of doing this ignorant crap they could just vote for trump
1. Only one self funding
2. Only candidate who has the balls to say what people are thinking
3. Only candidate who is a true leader (people follow the issues he is vocal about)

And for any SJWs in here that will call racist/xenophobic/islamiphobic save your breath because...

1. You can't form a solid argument to support those claims
2. Being triggered doesn't solve the problem and is not an argument

lol

1. Bernie Sanders is taking money only from the people, not the wealthy.
2. Bernie is the only one with the balls to say what people are thinking, Trump just has the balls to say what racists are thinking.
3. Bernie is the only one to be right.

2-1. I don't have to make any arguments I just have to quote the man himself.
2-2. Just hearing the word "triggered" pisses me off, stop using it.

[partshark]

Over 800 people were arrested in Washington D.C. this week while peacefully protesting money in politics. Where is the media coverage?

TL;DR The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

The answer is in the point of Democracy Spring. It's a movement to remove money from politics. This goes against the mainstream media because money in politics is how they make a living. 24 hour news networks are not funded by Crest ads, they're funded by Shell ads, Pfizer ads, Boeing ads. Companies who aren't selling you a product. How likely are you to go out and buy a 747 tomorrow? These ads are there to control the content. Not necessarily nefariously but it's done to control the content that is put out. They do this to keep their agendas in place. Big Oil wants less regulations but in order to keep regulations down, they have to convince the American people that they're the good guys. They do this by spending obscene amounts of money on advertising for 24h news networks. This makes the network unlikely to negatively attack them. This continues into politics. Big Oil spends obscene amounts of money to fund candidates who support their positions. The networks then primarily attack their opponents. This gets messy sometimes when Big Oil (as an example) buys multiple candidates. This one may be anti-abortion but supports their positions and this other guy may be pro abortion but supports their position. Either way they win.

With Democracy Spring and also Bernie Sanders, they are speaking out against this practice. This not only goes against Big Oil and friends but also against 24 hour news networks. Their very existence is dependent upon this practice. They don't HAVE to be but they are. When you give coverage, even negatively, to the movement you run risk of legitimizing it. By choosing not to cover it, you prevent millions of Americans from ever knowing about it. This has worked for a long, long time. Now those networks are competing in a digital age and they are fighting tooth and nail to be relevant. Democracy Spring would be a very disastrous blow to their very existence. Already 24h news networks like CNN and Fox are constantly attacked for being biased. However, for the longest time Fox was only bashed by Dems and CNN by Repubs. Now however, the rifts are so great in each party that these networks are being criticized from within.

We're having a General Election battle INSIDE both parties right now. Hillary stands for the Conservative, Center Right view and Bernie for the Liberal, Left. The differences are so vast between these two that Democrats are having to choose between two candidates from opposite ends of the spectrum. On the GOP side Trump is your Liberal Left, Cruz is your Conservative Right and Kasich is your moderate. The parties are not built for this and that's why they're fracturing right now.

If Democracy Spring, which 90% of the country agrees with by the way, has their way then the establishment would crumble. More so on the right where they take 70% of big money but a significant portion of the left would also collapse. They need this but those with Big Money are adamant about stopping it. This is why there is no coverage outside of non-mainstream media outlets. TYT talks about it because they believe in it. Granted Cenk is a driving force of Democracy Spring but even if he wasn't, this would be something they would heavily cover.

The only way Democracy Spring works is if we maintain our stance on it even after the General Election. Senate seats need to go to people who agree with no money in politics. State and local government elections need it even worse. These fights are harder because there's more at risk at the state level. So it's an ongoing battle that you must be ready to commit to.

[Nadiru]

Traditional French segmentation (the origin of the left/ring wing concept) broke the left/right into parties of movement and order respectively. Those are the core characteristics of each wing. There is nothing inherently wrong with either ideal, but both can be poorly applied and both have awful consequences when taken to extremes.

Fascism did not promote movement, it heavily promoted tradition and order.

Fascism promoted tradition and order? Hitler practically exiled the aristocracy and monarchy, and Mussolini killed the elites in his country.

[Xeones]

Fascism promoted tradition and order? Hitler practically exiled the aristocracy and monarchy, and Mussolini killed the elites in his country.

What a surprise! A dictator would remove all threats to authority.

[Nadiru]

Mussolini was never the fascist we all know on behalf of Hitler and his party. Italian fascism was based on corporatism and nationalism, it was always about consolidating resources of people and state to create an empire. Corporatism is a centrist ideology, it combines socialist and capitalism practices. Mussolini was also a member of a socialist party before. It's not particular practices that defines an ideology, it's the whole package. It's not like parties in the US (which is probably the most right-wing leaning country in the world right now) dont take any traditionally left wing positions (and are being labelled as communists for that, which is HILLARIOUS).

Isn't it more appropriate to say that Hitler wasn't the Fascist, since Mussolini and Hitler departed from each other on multiple levels? Lest we forget, Mussolini treated the Jews with respect and threatened to invade Nazi Germany after Germany invaded then-Fascist Austria.

EDIT: Misread the opening line

[Stormspellz]

Because we are a Constitutional Republic.

EVERYTHING the Left promised it didn't deliver and instead failed miserably at.
( Obama's presidency is a failure)
Poverty UP.
Economy Down.
Least Transparent Administration in History, who incidently Lived Like King and Queen
Constitutional rights trampled.
HATED worldwide, despite being loved prior.
National Security at all time Low
Leftist states becoming insolvent. ( Illinois for example)
Insurance companys announcing Obamacare, despite lowering quality of care, increasing customer costs, is causing insurance companys to go belly up.
Propagation of Nukes in the Middle east.
NORKS and Iran unchecked, in fact Paid to progress.


The entire thing, all of the promises. were empty and are broken at our feet.

People are PISSED.

That is some mental gymnastics rhetoric spin.

[Dextroden]

I'm puzzled by how these people don't have anything better to do with their time. I know, I know, they're all brave heroes for standing up to The Man, but seriously, who uses their vacation time on this shit?

Oh, they don't have jobs. They're the ones going on about basic income.

There is an /s up there, but I truly do believe there has to be a noticeable level of unemployment or financial support within protests like this.

[Skaiz]

Because there is already 2 presidential candidates who are running for office with platforms to nuke money in politics. The everyday protests don't need to be continuously aired.
Too many snowflakes to film

[melodramocracy]

That oligarchy sign is hilarious.

[Manabomb]

You're right. They should be able to ignore the law.

Just like media corporations, politicians and the 1%? Damn, it will be really nice to be treated equally.

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Because there is already 2 presidential candidates who are running for office with platforms to nuke money in politics. The everyday protests don't need to be continuously aired.
Too many snowflakes to film

Both of which have more super pac and donation backing than literally any other presidential candidate ever.

I seriously doubt either of them (Or any of the candidates this year, really) are ever going to follow through on that. From the outside looking in it looks like they are creating a faux crusade against themselves. And that goes for both parties and both candidates, really.