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    UK leaving the EU - How will it affect us gamers?

    I was wondering if anyone had any idea how the UK leaving the EU will affect me and us gamers as a whole?. In September I am due to start a 4 year University degree in Computer games development. So hopefully in 2020 I will be looking for a job/career in this environment.

    One of the main reason I would vote would be for my future career. Does anyone have any ideas about this subject and how it will affect the gaming industry?
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    It wont effect you because you are not a policy or change that will go into effect. It can affect you though.

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    Being part of the EU means it's easy for you as a EU citizen to work and live anywhere in the EU - I don't know if you ever expect to, but the option would always be there. Do with that as you please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vizardlorde View Post
    It wont effect you because you are not a policy or change that will go into effect. It can affect you though.
    haah i wasn't sure which one to use!! I googled it but got strange complicated explanations so i gave up :P

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    (sorry for my bad english, i'll try to give my contribution as a french citizen)

    The way the UK is leaving the EU will determine how it will affect you. Not the fact that UK leave EU.

    The UK has always be apart of EU, so it's a real possibility than the "EU minus specif UK rules" actually in place will be nearly exactly the same than a future "UK plus specific EU agreement", at least for "native english people" (not for EU immigrants).
    Another possibility is that EU and UK broke all agreements... this could happen if the UK politicians make UK leave the EU "hardly". Then you should expect a real impact on the UK economy and some international jobs.

    Remember you are (maybe) a citizen that will vote for this referendum and have an impact. Even if your vote didn't change the final result, the gap between YES and NO will say something by itself.
    Anyway, what I can recommend is that whatever is your vote, try to ask your politics to keep the debate objective and quiet, as it will change how the future deals between UK (within or without EU) will be done. -> Even if you don't care about politics, the business will be affected.

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    I'm still undecided myself.... unless they really do try and fast track Turkey joining the EU. It's silly enough that they're still in NATO, if they could be joining EU too then we need to go. I believe if Britain did leave it'd be the beginning of the end for the EU anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scroolooseuk View Post
    I was wondering if anyone had any idea how the UK leaving the EU will affect me and us gamers as a whole?.
    You will find it harder to get a job outside the UK, You will find it harder to get a job in the UK (as the are more people competing for them as they will find it harder to get a job outside the UK), you will find your cost of living is higher (due to the pound being worth less, imports costing more/etc) and you will find your wage is lower (as the are more people competing for the jobs).

    In general, you would be worse off.

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    With respect you won't need to find a job outside of the UK

    Greece has 24% unemployment
    Spain has 20% unemployment
    France has 10% unemployment
    UK has 5% unemployment

    If the UK leaves the restrictive practices of the EU maybe we will achieve full employment.
    It's only the EU thats holding the UK back.If you want to work and find it easier to get a job vote to leave.

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    If the UK leaves it's likely we won't be getting any trade deals with the EU without signing up to Freedom of Movement anyway making your issue moot anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    With respect you won't need to find a job outside of the UK

    Greece has 24% unemployment
    Spain has 20% unemployment
    France has 10% unemployment
    UK has 5% unemployment

    If the UK leaves the restrictive practices of the EU maybe we will achieve full employment.
    It's only the EU thats holding the UK back.If you want to work and find it easier to get a job vote to leave.
    UK unemployment figures includes part timers as being employed, regardless of how few hours are worked. It's a useless statistic that is fudged to make governments look effective.

    Thinking that leaving the EU will have any beneficial effect on employment for UK citizens is delusional.
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    I'm a UK citizen so I'm eligible to vote in the EU referendum even though I live in the Channel Islands.

    Guernsey is outside of the EU. They have adopted certain parts of common EU legislation but we have the ability to cherry pick the stuff that's actually good and none of the batshit stupid stuff like open borders and extensive control over domestic affairs including fishing, farming and justice.

    I'm dead set on voting to leave and many other people I know are as well. The EU may have been a good thing in the past but it's terrible now and it's getting far worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsybob View Post
    The EU may have been a good thing in the past but it's terrible now and it's getting far worse.
    While I agree with you, we should all ask for revisiting the way the UE is working instead of just leaving it.

    UE has been a great tool to stabilize Europe and countries relationship, and this union probably mean something during cold war.
    Since the fall of ussr, the EU is no more a critical geopolitical tool, but a commercial tool... so money is the main goal of EU and this is probably a reason amongst others of the EU current state.

    But with the raise of Russia and the current "international terrorism" we met today, EU could be one more time the geopolitical tool we need... But I agree it's not something which could easily occur... IMHO not a reason to leave and shutdown any hope...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    With respect you won't need to find a job outside of the UK

    Greece has 24% unemployment
    Spain has 20% unemployment
    France has 10% unemployment
    UK has 5% unemployment

    If the UK leaves the restrictive practices of the EU maybe we will achieve full employment.
    It's only the EU thats holding the UK back.If you want to work and find it easier to get a job vote to leave.
    You'll never have full employment, actually full employment is not only bad but absolutely terrible for the economy. Not just that but the unemployment rate in the UK isn't telling the full story. Many of those employed are 0 hour and part time. Meaning they are not bringing in meaningful money and are below the threshold to pay taxation. If you think the EU is at fault, well frankly you're delusional.

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    Probably not at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloryen View Post
    While I agree with you, we should all ask for revisiting the way the UE is working instead of just leaving it.
    I'm not sure which way I'll vote yet, but I do believe that asking for EU reform will ultimately lead to a bait and switch and very little appropriate resolution.
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    Doubt it'll affect us at all, job wise you will have a harder time going abroad but not much else.

    It probably won't affect the games industry in the UK at all though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeula View Post

    No it won't, stop your propaganda fear mongering.
    It won't crash but it certainly won't be in good shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeula View Post
    No it won't, stop your propaganda fear mongering.
    In the short term our economy will crash as markets do not react well to uncertainty - though claiming breadlines is nonsense and somewhat odd that a self-proclaimed anarchist is seemingly pro-EU membership.

    In the long term we will be worse off to a degree, though how much will depend on what deals can be negotiated with the EU and in what timeframe.

    The problem with leaving the EU is that, even in the very best case scenario which is highly unlikely to happen, our economy will be about where it would be if we stayed in the EU.

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