Double gathering for a main

[Xeranath]

Hello,

In times gone past, I've often had my main take a crafting profession and a gathering profession to suit.

I am tempted however, going forward to Legion, to have my main acquire both mining and herbalism. Given that I spend 90% of my gaming time on my main, this would allow me to bank roll whatever I would need to fund my crafting acts.

A question, what downsides would their be to this? I'm supposing I wouldn't be privy to any rare bound recipe that might drop, but my funds from gathering should be enough to pay whoever does chase those drops to craft such items for me.

Anything else I would miss? Are there others that choose this profession path?

Thanks for any input!

[Trindale]

The only possible downside could be if they bring back profession only items/enchants. Eg. ring enchants that only enchanters could get.
Most crafted items that have a use arent soulbound. Gear, weapons, trinkets, enchants etc. Again, this might change in Legion.

So I see no problem with it. I have the same thought train to give me an initial boost in funds. And IF I need anything from professions, ill just make it on an alt.
Or worst case, store the mats and reroll my professions later once I've built up a stash of mats.

[Adramelch]

The only possible downside could be if they bring back profession only items/enchants. Eg. ring enchants that only enchanters could get.
Most crafted items that have a use arent soulbound. Gear, weapons, trinkets, enchants etc. Again, this might change in Legion.

Even then, crafting professions had some passives with them. Not as strong as other stuff I guess, but still they had something (stamina increase from Mining, and a haste proc from Herbalism? I don't recall for certain).

[Rhyxus]

I have the same feeling about this, IMO "if i can farm all this materials and earn enough gold to buy stuff, why bother on crafting my gear?"
Could be a weird way of thinking, but works for me and i will maintain on Legion.

[Astynax]

Havent tried both on 1 char before, but wouldn't the tracker on the map be able to track nodes or herbs and not both at the same time?

Would make double gathering a bit less efficient then if 1 is invisible on the minimap

[Xandrigity]

Havent tried both on 1 char before, but wouldn't the tracker on the map be able to track nodes or herbs and not both at the same time?

Would make double gathering a bit less efficient then if 1 is invisible on the minimap

One isn't invisable you have been able to track both since MOP

In fact on my gathering toon I track herbs, ore and trees all at the same time. All the nodes show up, even treasure nodes

[Fabinas]

Both show up as dots in the minimap. Druid used to be the superior class for this, when it was able to gather ore in flight form. Since 6.2, all druid miners are forced to their humanoid form when mining a node, be it garrison or outside world. The silly thing is that druid NON-miners can still gather ore in garrison without switching form. I suspect this happens to remove the "unfair" advantage of druids mining while on flight form and escaping easy any surrounding mobs, which wasn't possible for any other class. Herbalism isn't the same, as any class with the Sky Golem can also harvest herbs on "flight" form.

[Denkou]

Both show up as dots in the minimap. Druid used to be the superior class for this, when it was able to gather ore in flight form. Since 6.2, all druid miners are forced to their humanoid form when mining a node, be it garrison or outside world. The silly thing is that druid NON-miners can still gather ore in garrison without switching form. I suspect this happens to remove the "unfair" advantage of druids mining while on flight form and escaping easy any surrounding mobs, which wasn't possible for any other class. Herbalism isn't the same, as any class with the Sky Golem can also harvest herbs on "flight" form.

It's funny because you can't gather herbs in your garrison garden while flying on your flying mount with the stables perk - you get a "You are flying" error message. You have to actually "land" the flying mount and then gather it.

[Sylvaeres]

Honestly, you have 4 months till Legion release. My suggestion, stack away as much gold now as you can, while it's as abundant as it is. That way you could have other professions while not having to farm

[Damajin]

Meh to dual gather on main character. Mains are what you do important things on, not chores.

[Fabinas]

It's funny because you can't gather herbs in your garrison garden while flying on your flying mount with the stables perk - you get a "You are flying" error message. You have to actually "land" the flying mount and then gather it.

That's not funny. That's intended. Even Druids have to "land" to gather a herb in their flight form and has been so like from MoP or maybe mid-Cata, can't remember. The advantage druids have is that Tauren druids gather herbs so fast that, even if you aggro, you just pick and fly away.

[-Gr-]

I usually have 2 crafting profs on my main and have a pally for mining and herbalism.

[Kraineth]

Meh to dual gather on main character. Mains are what you do important things on, not chores.

Crafters stay in a main city and craft stuff.

Gatherers go out in the world and have to kill mobs, whether it be for skinning or to clear an area near a node.

Your main is inherently your most powerful character, and thus deals with said mobs the quickest.

[Fritters154]

Meh to dual gather on main character. Mains are what you do important things on, not chores.

If it's going to be the character you spend the most time on, you might as well take advantage of it. Crafting professions are generally cooldown gated whereas gathering professions have no limit on what can be done in a day.

Main: I'm going to log in and play for a bit. Probably go out into the world.
Alt: I'm going to log in, use prof cooldown, log out. Maybe go out into world once a week.

Unless actual profession benefits are brought back, I see minimal reason to have crafting professions on a main and no reason to have gathering professions on an alt.

[Damajin]

Crafters stay in a main city and craft stuff.

Gatherers go out in the world and have to kill mobs, whether it be for skinning or to clear an area near a node.

Your main is inherently your most powerful character, and thus deals with said mobs the quickest.

Mains are also the ones you do all your rep grinds on, thus rep patterns and other such things tied to any type of grind whether it's rep or some type of token currency become a consideration. Dual Gatherer main benefits not one bit from that. I'd rather get my crafting professions on my main and since I'm not going to ever need to farm a ton of mats for mass crafting stuff devote what time is necessary to farming on a gatherer whether dual or otherwise. There's always shortcuts that savvy people find in each expansion to minimize the difficulty of making anything you need to make.

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If it's going to be the character you spend the most time on, you might as well take advantage of it. Crafting professions are generally cooldown gated whereas gathering professions have no limit on what can be done in a day.

Main: I'm going to log in and play for a bit. Probably go out into the world.
Alt: I'm going to log in, use prof cooldown, log out. Maybe go out into world once a week.

Unless actual profession benefits are brought back, I see minimal reason to have crafting professions on a main and no reason to have gathering professions on an alt.

As I said, reputation patterns or profession quests and such tied to currency are a key consideration of which a dual gatherer doesn't benefit at all. I can get behind a craft/gather combo for a main but not dual gather, that's just silly to me.

[Fritters154]

As I said, reputation patterns or profession quests and such tied to currency are a key consideration of which a dual gatherer doesn't benefit at all. I can get behind a craft/gather combo for a main but not dual gather, that's just silly to me.

Of which there weren't really any in WoD and don't appear to be any in Legion (aside from secondary professions). There are a handful of old learned recipes that I would probably question getting rid of in switching to only gathering professions, but none of which I actually still use for any purpose.

[Damajin]

Of which there weren't really any in WoD and don't appear to be any in Legion (aside from secondary professions). There are a handful of old learned recipes that I would probably question getting rid of in switching to only gathering professions, but none of which I actually still use for any purpose.

Yeah there were none in WoD and so far doesn't look that way in Legion but we don't know for sure. It's better to be able to use those appropriately though when they do come because they will, and I sure as hell wouldn't want to grind rep on craft bots I've already got on my main. A gatherer is a throwaway workbitch that you farm what you need, mail it off and then log back on the character that really matters.

[Fritters154]

Yeah there were none in WoD and so far doesn't look that way in Legion but we don't know for sure. It's better to be able to use those appropriately though when they do come because they will, and I sure as hell wouldn't want to grind rep on craft bots I've already got on my main. A gatherer is a throwaway workbitch that you farm what you need, mail it off and then log back on the character that really matters.

If patterns requiring grinds or profession advantages return to the game I would fully agree with you.

Until they are confirmed to be returning though I will still say that there is really no reason to not consider double gathering completely viable on a main, simply for the sake of time allotment. To me, alts are characters that get played minimally and are thus perfect for cooldown gated professions (crafting). The main is the character that gets played often for things like dailies and are thus perfect for professions that actually require traveling around (gathering).

While I might not travel around for dailies on an alt, I will almost certainly do so for a main. Having gathering professions on it just takes advantage of the fact that I will already be running around in places where gathering nodes exist.

[Damajin]

If patterns requiring grinds or profession advantages return to the game I would fully agree with you.

Until they are confirmed to be returning though I will still say that there is really no reason to not consider double gathering completely viable on a main, simply for the sake of time allotment. To me, alts are characters that get played minimally and are thus perfect for cooldown gated professions (crafting). The main is the character that gets played often for things like dailies and are thus perfect for professions that actually require traveling around (gathering).

While I might not travel around for dailies on an alt, I will almost certainly do so for a main. Having gathering professions on it just takes advantage of the fact that I will already be running around in places where gathering nodes exist.

Well for your sake I hope there's no BoP crafting mats showing up.

[Fritters154]

Well for your sake I hope there's no BoP crafting mats showing up.

If there are I can just level up the profession on my main again. Crafting professions are damn easy to level.