Caning as a penalty

[Pretty Little Psycho]

Do you think caning should be implemented as a legal penalty in your country?

[breadisfunny]

no because we got rid of it in the early 1900's.

[Chirri]

Nope, not at all.

[Pretty Little Psycho]

no because we got rid of it in the early 1900's.

Why? It can be useful as a penalty.

[Deleted]

Why? To discipline those darn kids with their satanist music and smartphones?

[Pretty Little Psycho]

Why? To discipline those darn kids with their satanist music and smartphones?

No, for robbery, gang robbery, vandalism and sexual abuse and some other criminal acts.

[Independent voter]

30 days in jail or 10 strikes of the cane, your choice?

[Deleted]

No, for robbery, gang robbery, vandalism and sexual abuse and some other criminal acts.

Who is going to cane them?

[Pretty Little Psycho]

Who is going to cane them?

Authorities.

[jellmoo]

No. It's not an appreciable deterrent to crime, does not offer any really understanding of the issue, and offers nothing in regards to rehabilitation. It's a poorly thought out guttural reaction to crime, and not something that offers society a solution of any real value.

(of course, by the same token the privatization of prisons is pretty much in the same boat...)

[Deleted]

Authorities.

Better be done by machine then. Nobody is going to cane people even for pay. Even if were there would not be enough people for it.

[Spectral]

I prefer beating to jailing as a punishment for both humanitarian and incentive reasons. I think the long-term damage of jailing is significantly worse than a physical beating. I also think that the sort of people that commit the majority of crimes tend to respond more to immediate, easy to understand incentives than they do to things that have long-term effects - there's are not people with low time preference.

[Justpassing]

ITT: My main account is banned but I wasn't nearly done shitposting so I made another account.

[Spectral]

No. It's not an appreciable deterrent to crime...

What makes you say so? The most infamous practitioner of caning, Singapore, doesn't seem to have much of a problem with criminality. Pretty much any analysis will conclude that incentives do matter.

[breadisfunny]

well now that i think about it the draenei could use a good caning.

[Alvito]

It is effective. Even with that I am not sure it is something that we should use as a form of punishment.

[gyrados]

is this the middle east?

[Deleted]

ITT: My main account is banned but I wasn't nearly done shitposting so I made another account.

We have had two of those today. And like four this weekend?

[jellmoo]

What makes you say so? The most infamous practitioner of caning, Singapore, doesn't seem to have much of a problem with criminality. Pretty much any analysis will conclude that incentives do matter.

They also don't have trial by jury coupled with a legal system radically different than what's present in North America. It really isn't an Apples to Apples comparison.

[Alvito]

I prefer beating to jailing as a punishment for both humanitarian and incentive reasons. I think the long-term damage of jailing is significantly worse than a physical beating. I also think that the sort of people that commit the majority of crimes tend to respond more to immediate, easy to understand incentives than they do to things that have long-term effects - there's are not people with low time preference.

Long term prison certainly degrades a persons mind and behavior to the point that most can't rejoin society in any meaningful way. Knowing that upfront means all long term imprisonment is really a life sentence.

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30 days in jail or 10 strikes of the cane, your choice?

I think a lot of people would take the 10 strikes and imediately change or regret their choice after the first or second strike.