Child porn suspect jailed indefinitely for refusing to decrypt hard drives

[melodramocracy]

So much for that 5th amendment that folks were touting during the Apple - FBI fiasco.

[The Casualty]

So much for that 5th amendment that folks were touting during the Apple - FBI fiasco.

While related, the 5th amendment wouldn't have applied in that case, as the Supreme Court has not recognized fifth amendment rights for corporations. It was more of an issue of the rights of corporations to not be compelled to create backdoors into their software for the purpose of investigation by the government.

[Deleted]

While related, the 5th amendment wouldn't have applied in that case, as the Supreme Court has not recognized fifth amendment rights for corporations. It was more of an issue of the rights of corporations to not be compelled to create backdoors into their software for the purpose of investigation by the government.

It also wouldn't matter - you can only assert privilege for things that could make you culpable to a crime - you can hold a third party for not telling you the password.
I.E if apple knew the password, it would have to tell, regardless of personhood.

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

Are you seriously asking this question ?

I am pretty sure this question has been answered. Viewing Child Pornography is different than possessing child porn.

You could easily view child porn by accident, but if you save it, and are in possession of it, able to bring it up and view whenever, then it is a crime.

For instance, anyone could upload Child Porn onto MMO-C and it would stay up until a moderator took it down. The images could be viewed by a great many people, who though viewed child porn, didn't do so with intent.

[Colmadero]

I am pretty sure this question has been answered. Viewing Child Pornography is different than possessing child porn.

You could easily view child porn by accident, but if you save it, and are in possession of it, able to bring it up and view whenever, then it is a crime.

For instance, anyone could upload Child Porn onto MMO-C and it would stay up until a moderator took it down. The images could be viewed by a great many people, who though viewed child porn, didn't do so with intent.

I remember reading once that prosecutors would go as far as indicting you for having just VIEWED them online since they get cached somewhere hence you are in indirect possession of it.

Horse shit but technically true.

[Nurvus]

So has the sister been arrested as well for admitting to viewing child pornography? Do search warrants include hard drives nowadays?

Though if there was nothing on them, why wouldn't he decrypt them? Suppose stuff could be planted, seems like authorities are desperately trying to get him on something.

I'll go ahead and choose his side. Using his clearly vindictive sister and a "best guess" forensic examiner as witnesses is hilarious.

So in your idea you should comply to ANY request just to prove you're innocent?
Ridiculous.

Those accusing you are the ones who need to justify their actions.

That's why undercover exists.
That's why all sorts of investigations exist.

Just going "Hmm I think you're guilty -> Jail -> Now I'm entitled to go through all your private stuff." is not acceptable.

[Vash The Stampede]

Meanwhile at Nintendo land, Splatoon is totally not child softcore porn.

[Very Tired]

You're now on the FBI watchlist for necroing a 3 month old thread about child porn.

[Jester Joe]

Yeah, this thread is a bit too old, and about a case that's just as old.

Gonna close this here, please check the dates of posts before responding to a thread in case of accidental necromancy.