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http://gawker.com/john-boehner-ted-c...esh-1773578518
A new article in Stanford’s student paper includes one of the most inflammatory, wonderful quotes of the entire election cycle, in which the former Speaker of the House completely shits on completely unlikeable presidential candidate Ted Cruz.
The article, from a speaking appearance by a brutally honest Boehner at Stanford’s Cemex Auditorium, begins on a great enough note: “You can call me boner, beaner, jackass, happy to answer to almost anything.” Good shit, I love it, this interview is promising.
Much of the discussion – and laughs – focused on Boehner’s views on the current presidential candidates. Segueing into the topic, Kennedy asked Boehner to be frank given that the event was not being broadcasted, and the former Speaker responded in kind. When specifically asked his opinions on Ted Cruz, Boehner made a face, drawing laughter from the crowd.
“Lucifer in the flesh,” the former speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”
Poor Ted, does anyone like the guy? And here I thought the GOP establishment were supporting him against Trump... after those words from Boehner, I'm starting to think they might be secretly pulling for Hillary, because god knows they don't want Trump. This election just keeps getting more and more interesting
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2016-04-28, 01:57 PM #1Field Marshal
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John Boehner: Ted Cruz Is "Lucifer in the Flesh"
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2016-04-28, 01:59 PM #2Mechagnome
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The establishment types would rather the nominee be Cruz, which should tell you just how bad they think Trump is.
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2016-04-28, 02:01 PM #3The Lightbringer
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Ted is just learning what most of us already knew. You can't trust the establishment, they only care about themselves and their own agenda. If Trump is the nominee, I suspect many members of the GOP will be pulling for Hillary, some are already coming out. I think this election is more about Washington Elite v. "Common folk" (us) than Dem v Pub.
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2016-04-28, 02:07 PM #4The Undying
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The common folk, like billionaire Donald Trump and Harvard graduate Ted Cruz? What the hell are your uncommon folk like? Originally Posted by Alydael
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2016-04-28, 02:08 PM #5Void Lord
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If you think Trump or Cruz represent the "common folk", then the issue is really illusions of grandeur. When did a NY elite, reality show celebrity, who values his name at 3 billion, become the representation of "common folk"? It's oligarch versus establishment, not common folk... Originally Posted by Alydael
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I've never seen an oligarch like Trump, be argued as common folk. That's what being a celebrity gets you... Originally Posted by Kalis
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2016-04-28, 02:11 PM #6The Lightbringer
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I agree that it is ironic that Trump is the one representing "common folk." It is because Trump does not have to take any lobbyist money to win and he is a Washington "outsider." All of our Washington Elite are deep in the take, so they will just support whatever the lobbyists want. Originally Posted by Kalis
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2016-04-28, 02:12 PM #7The Lightbringer
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More like insanity vs establishment Originally Posted by Felya
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Barret: It's a good thing we had those Phoenix Downs. Originally Posted by unholytestament
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2016-04-28, 02:13 PM #8The Lightbringer
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I never said Trump was "common folk." I just pointed out that he is the candidate that is seen as representing the "common folk." Someone from the "common folk" could never win a Presidential election in the US, it takes too much money and connections. Originally Posted by Felya
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2016-04-28, 02:17 PM #9Merely a Setback
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This was in the Stanford Student paper. Are we sure it wasn't a comedy column?
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2016-04-28, 02:21 PM #10Field Marshal
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Originally Posted by Reeve
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...22570?cmpid=sf
heres a better (more serious?) article about it.
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2016-04-28, 02:21 PM #11The Undying
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Trump may well be not under the influence of lobbyists, but he literally is one himself, so there is that slight issue you ignored. Originally Posted by Alydael
I suppose you could argue that you are missing out the middle man by wanting to directly elect a lobbyist, so there is that.
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2016-04-28, 02:24 PM #12The Lightbringer
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I guess your argument is that Trump is in the pocket of himself? I mean aren't we all. I would hope that he supports his own positions and beliefs, otherwise he would be dishonest. Originally Posted by Kalis
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2016-04-28, 02:26 PM #13I am Murloc!
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You understand Trump is a lobbyist right? Only rather than being "on the take" of various lobbyist groups he will be lining his own pockets instead. I understand from your wording that your not exactly coming out for Trump but I'm just curious whether or not you realise his interests are already aligned with exactly what his supporters think he will be standing against. Originally Posted by Alydael
/edit Kalis beat me to it QQ.
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2016-04-28, 02:27 PM #14The Undying
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No, my argument is that Trump has no interest in the common folk, he has an interest in Donald Trump. It is not like he even makes a secret of it. Originally Posted by Alydael
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2016-04-28, 02:28 PM #15Void Lord
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How does Trump represent the common folk? Obama and Hillary were not born with a silver spoon in their mouth, but as common folk who rose up to be where they are. Obama grew up in a single parent home, with student and then an anthropologist mother. Hillary grew up with a small business manager father and a home maker mother. Trump was born to a real estate mogul... Originally Posted by Alydael
Trump can be seen by his supporters as anything, but it doesn't change what he actually represents. He has never lived like common people, to even know how to represent us.
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Well, he has convinced you that he represents common folks, so there's that... Originally Posted by Alydael
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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2016-04-28, 02:29 PM #16The Lightbringer
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As opposed to all the other politicians that care about you? Originally Posted by Kalis
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2016-04-28, 02:29 PM #17High Overlord
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Originally Posted by Macedonicus
Plenty of people like Ted Cruz. At least, his favorability ratings aren't as low as Trump's or Clinton's.
This narrative that he is universally disliked is propaganda. The left dislikes Ted Cruz. The republican establishment dislikes Ted Cruz. For example, it was only recently that polling showed that Clinton would beat Ted Cruz in a general election, and even that polling is close and could go either way. Before all the smearing that has gone on, Ted Cruz actually polled to beat Hillary Clinton, which shows you how weak a candidate Hillary Clinton really is. So obviously he is not universally disliked. Trump has almost never polled to beat Clinton in a head to head face off, showing that he is disliked.
If the GOPs goal had been to win the election from the start, they would have backed Ted Cruz from the start. However, that hasn't happened, so it is very likely that the democrats will win the white house, despite putting forth two very easily beatable candidates.
That being said, they disagree with the idea of Trump even more. The real test of hatred from the GOP will be to see if they change the convention rules to select a candidate that did not even run in the primaries, should it come to a contested convention.
The GOP is perfectly willing to lose another election, as long as it means the GOP stays around.
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2016-04-28, 02:30 PM #18Merely a Setback
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Well then that's hilarious. Or at least it's exactly the way I'd expect someone to react who had worked with Ted Cruz. I mean not even Cruz's daughter can stand him. Originally Posted by Macedonicus
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2016-04-28, 02:31 PM #19Void Lord
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It goes a long with the thread that thinks Bernie Sanders supporters will switch to Trump if he wins. Some people don't care about what they say, just the celebrity they are accustomed to seeing on TV. Originally Posted by Kronik85
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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2016-04-28, 02:31 PM #20The Lightbringer
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I think the policies he proposes favor the "common folk" more than any of the other politicians running. Do I think he is great or anything, no. The USA election typically comes down to who you think is the lesser evil. Obama and Hillary's policies have, in large, favored big business. Originally Posted by Felya
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