Pathfinder achievement looking pretty steep to unlock a core ability

[Barkloud]

holy smokes. I am all for putting in some effort, but flying is a core ability.

I hope blizzard does not use slow travel like they did in Draenor to slow content consumption.

[Asrialol]

Am I back in 2015?

[Ornerybear]

it really doesn't look that bad...rep grind will be the only thing and we dont know how bad those will be.

[Kazgrel]

Pretty sure there's a thread about flight in 7.0/Legion on this forum somewhere...

[Rixis]

it really doesn't look that bad...rep grind will be the only thing and we dont know how bad those will be.

We do. They've told us, these will be levelling reps with no grinding. Think akin to the Hozen/Jinyu factions. (maybe slightly harder for some that require world quests, which will be done as another part of the achie anyway)

[Ornerybear]

We do. They've told us, these will be levelling reps with no grinding. Think akin to the Hozen/Jinyu factions.

ffs why is anyone complaining then. I'll be able to do all this just seeing the content with my main...

this is so much better than the draenor one and that was a cake walk even with collecting the treasures...

[Socialhealer]

We do. They've told us, these will be levelling reps with no grinding. Think akin to the Hozen/Jinyu factions.

yeh it won't get you to revered, but the world quests those factions offer will get you to revered in a couple of weeks.

and if people don't want to do world quests, don't buy legion because it's going to be a huge part of getting gear, reps, mounts, toys, class hall order resources, artifact power etc, so avoiding world quests will make your toon pretty awful. and a further note if you don't want to do quests, don't play an mmorpg!

[Molis]

Looks reasonable and worth while.

OP you are over-reacting.

[monkmastaeq]

Just another way to gate their content so it lasts longer simply through the attrition of taking time to travel. I will still plvl to 110, I wont bother exploring crap and i will just use a guide to get the flying achi when it comes out. The exact same as draenor flying.

Not flying doesnt foster world pvp. The only world pvp is ganking someone at 10% hp and then running away when its actually a fair fight

[Rixis]

Let me try to clear things up a bit, since I realize a single achievement out of context isn't exactly informative.

Overall, this is consistent with the plans we announced last year when we added the original Draenor Pathfinder achievement in 6.2.2, and hopefully does not come as a surprise. The underlying philosophy here is: explore and master the outdoor world on the ground, in order to unlock the ability to soar above it freely. This time around, since we have our design in place from the start of the expansion, we want to give players as much advance notice as possible, and allow everyone who cares deeply about unlocking flight to understand the requirements and begin progressing towards them immediately.

I can't give a detailed estimate of exactly when the next step will unlock. We have a solid patch plan in the works, but we need to remain flexible to adapt to player needs once the expansion launches, and there's no way to even hint at a date without it sounding like a promise. That said, I can say that Part One should represent a significant majority of the total effort required to ultimately unlock flight. Patch content will see players adventuring within new parts of the Broken Isles, and there will likely be one or two additional criteria associated with that content. At that point, players will unlock the ability to fly throughout the Broken Isles.

Finally, I've seen some concern about rep "grinding" associated with this achievement. All of the referenced reputations are earned by doing level-up quests and world quests associated with those factions throughout the Broken Isles. There are no mob-grinding components to any of these reputations. Frankly, the Legion Pathfinder achievement was much easier to design than Draenor Pathfinder was, simply because we have much more outdoor world content in Legion. (source)

Bottom paragraph refers to the rep.

[Leih]

These are all things I would do just by playing the game. Pretty fine with me, and sounds like we'll be getting flying with the next tier of content. Sounds good. If it's account-wide and helps me level my alts like it is in WoD then I'm pretty happy with this compromise.

[EyelessCrow]

I imagine like with the flying in WoD you will be able to unlock it fairly quickly just by playing the game normally, even faster if you focus in on the objectives. Which I think is a perfect compromise.

[Rixis]

yeh it won't get you to revered, but the world quests those factions offer will get you to revered in a couple of weeks.

and if people don't want to do world quests, don't buy legion because it's going to be a huge part of getting gear, reps, mounts, toys, class hall order resources, artifact power etc, so avoiding world quests will make your toon pretty awful. and a further note if you don't want to do quests, don't play an mmorpg!

Completing a bunch of world quests is one of the objectives of the achievement anyway

[Serissa]

Remember it's just first step. With first content patch you will get second step. Then third... Just like legendary chain now. You will get flying just 2-3 months prior to preexpansion patch. Mark my words.

[Deleted]

time gated content is so much fun... not

[Jinxz]

as a hardcore casual and hardcore arena player, the achievement is fine. WoD had nothing to do outside of raids, so ANY content outside of garrison and raiding is welcomed.

[Rixis]

Remember it's just first step. With first content patch you will get second step. Then third... Just like legendary chain now. You will get flying just 2-3 months prior to preexpansion patch. Mark my words.

Yeah ... we got flying in WoD like 12 month before Legion comes out. We also don't know if there will be more steps, but each step gives a reward of some sort, the first stage gives you a mounted speed increase.

[Hydrofluoric]

Lol fucking casuals

it is so easy to do i did draenor pathfinder in 10 minutes


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[Xandrigity]

It doesn't look any different than the WOD pathfinder other than you start it at the beginning and the rep you gain while questing and leveling. Looks ok to me

[Exerionx]

Tbh this pathfinder looks way better than the WoD one. And at least we get some small perks per sub-achievement for the meta.