Target is done, they are history. F target. Sorry target but you sold out and brought this on yourself. All the founders and current leaders of target should also be ostracized as well.
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Feeling like a stranger in your own body, side effects of drugs, personal isolation due to feeling different. It could be many things. No one discriminates against pre op transgender people who hide their condition because obviously no one knows they are different. Yet these people kill themselves the most in droves, how exactly do you explain that?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_in_sports
More than one transgender person would find this exceedingly laughable. Also knowing that transgender people are routinely discriminated against and hated by society is enough to drive people into depression before they actually transition. You know, the whole saying in the closet thing.
Jesus christ this thread.
Thank you for reminding me to shop at Target tomorrow
Ok, read it, not getting anything that would solidly back what you're saying and certainly no studies or real statistics, just arguments like this one:
"Those against trans individuals competing in gender specific sport say that they are given an unfair advantage over cisgender individuals due to their testosterone levels and muscle and fat distribution. Testosterone regulates many different functions in the body, including the maintenance of healthy bone and muscle mass.[6] Since males have higher levels of testosterone then they are able to gain more muscle mass compared to most females, which may benefit their athletic abilities. Most exclusion is seen in cases when the individual is a transgender woman because of testosterone. It is also argued that trans women have previous muscular development and that they will have a greater muscle to fat ratio compared to other female-assigned athletes.[1] However, the addition of testosterone blockers and additional estrogen as a method of hormonal transition plays a major role on the amount of testosterone levels present in their body. Some trans women begin intense hormone therapy, taking high doses of estrogen, and if the person opts to have gender affirming surgery, this also plays a role in the amount of testosterone levels present in the body."
So yeah, nice link, but no real statistics that prove what you're saying is true - no numbers at all, just examples of transgenders both failing and succeeding, such as:
"Kristen Worley was one of the first athletes after a 2004 IOC ruling to try to compete in the Olympics as an openly transgender post-op athlete. Unfortunately, she did not make any of the qualifying times that Canada said were required for her to be able to compete in the Olympics. She believed that she was capable of being very competitive in the Beijing Olympics of 2008 as a cyclist, but also believed that it was unfair for the IOC to force her to come out in such a public way, when all she wanted to do was be recognized for the woman that she is.[2]"
I'd say there wasn't really an advantage there.
There are no statistics because there is no sample size. It is obvious men are better at virtually every physical sport compared to women due to obvious physical differences that hormones and surgeries cannot change. 1 transgender person failing to succeed is another example of anecdotal evidence and is just blind to facts.
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I could only tell if they were flamboyant about it. How exactly do these questions relate to what I just said? Make your point or don't make a point.
DR. NICK GORTON
"Transgender student-athletes fall within the spectrum of physical traits found in athletes of their transitioned gender, allowing them to compete fairly and equitably."
ERIC VILAIN M.D., Ph.D., Professor, Director of the Center for Gender-Based Biology and Chief Medical Genetics Department of Pediatrics, UCLA
“Research suggests that androgen deprivation and cross sex hormone treatment in male-to-female transsexuals reduces muscle mass; accordingly, one year of hormone therapy is an appropriate transitional time before a male-to-female student-athlete competes on a women’s team.”
TL;DR: Even the NCAA allows transgender women in women's competition. The only requirement is hormone therapy. The second and third links are the IOC and MMA allowing trans women to compete with other women as well.
You can't make a generalization off of 1 transgender person failing to place. I never said anything about pronouns.
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http://thefederalist.com/2016/01/27/allowing-transgender-olympians-is-unfair-to-women/
We can do this all this day dude, more organizations have banned it than allowed it.
It's arguable and yes, it can be argued all day. There is no definitive answer anywhere that backs up what you're saying, just conjecture and theory.
Didn't you say pretty early on that they aren't really women if they're transgender and sports was your argument? My apologies if I misunderstood.