"Teehee let's bring up an example where you aren't putting yourself in the situation to try and discredit an argument about putting yourself in dumb situations."
I guess, if you want.
If you decide you just don't feel like driving or paying for a cab to go to a bar in a bad neighborhood, and put on revealing clothing and walk through a series of alleyways in an unfamiliar area alone in the middle of the night... I'm going to go ahead and call you an idiot.
Post OP they have gone through years of therapy and are on anti-depressants if needed. Why do you keep ignoring this fact?The fact that post op suicide rates are lower or the same as pre op would indicate that social discrimination is not the primary cause of suicide because a transgender person is much more likely to receive discrimination post op.
No it doesn't. If transsexuals can compete in women's sports it will be a problem and if you admit that they shouldn't then you are admitting they shouldn't be treated as 100% normal women. They are different, that is fact. It doesn't matter how harmless or harmful it is. Laws should be objective and factual, not just capitulated for the sake of making someone feel better. If you have to make new laws to create a new gender category then do it but don't pretend that something that is illusory is objective just because it is harmless.
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I haven't been arguing here for all 60 pages. Are you kidding me? You are just trolling at this point.
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Because those two things do not have correlate with discrimination. A pre op transgender person might not face any discrimination at all if they keep their condition private and as I said earlier, most pre op people take anti-depressants as well.
If the theory that discrimination causes high suicide rates is true than the suicide rates should increase as discrimination does but in fact the opposite is true. Outside forces don't change that basic premise.
If you've only been posting for 3 pages, then yes, I've read everything you've written and I still wholeheartedly disagree. You can call me a troll if you like, but that doesn't change the fact that your sports argument is weak, at best. If it's actually shown to be an advantage that is unfair, I'm sure rules will be made. It's just an excuse to argue against something you don't like and can't change.
Keep attacking me all you want, I really don't care - and still believe you're wrong.
I'm against gender separated sports to begin with, but that's me. I also don't see a problem with allowing a trans woman compete in women's sports, but feel free to post a source or two proving me wrong.
Everyone is different, that is fact.They are different, that is fact.
Laws are based on ethics, not facts. Saying it's wrong to kill someone is not a fact. Laws also cater to society, at least in a democracy.It doesn't matter how harmless or harmful it is. Laws should be objective and factual, not just capitulated for the sake of making someone feel better. If you have to make new laws to create a new gender category than do it but don't pretend that something that is illusory is objective just because it is harmless.
Man, you love using your theological arguments and deflections.
You might have said it's stupid, but it was referring to transgenders being attacked because they put themselves out there. You don't seem to realize how ludicrous that really is. She might be a he so - let's attack her! You could put that same argument in to any form of discrimination and it would still be a violation of rights, and morally wrong.
So label it all you like, it's just another excuse for hate.
Target shouldn't have stuck their nose in something that doesn't require them to. Targets are everywhere, they need to keep their noses out of issues. Ill do some more research then give my findings. Something stinks at target and real americans want to find out why.
No rule is going to change the fact that post op MtFs are going to have a huge advantage in any sport and if you attempt to regulate their involvement at all, you are admitting they are not of the female sex and that there is a difference. I'm not saying they shouldn't have rights in the law but people need to acknowledge that they aren't entirely men or women when they transition.
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They are somewhere back there. Some UCLA medical journal found suicide rates rapidly decreasing post op.
Just as I suspected all the target board of directors are globalists and probably could care less about America or Americans.
http://investors.target.com/phoenix....=irol-govboard