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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    No, send them to jail where they can eat for free
    "Free"...also known as 39 BILLION dollars of the taxpayer's money. Or maybe we can worry about taking care of people in a real way so that they don't need to steal.

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    Way to interpret the verdict... It is not that the food is free if you are hungry, it is that stealing it when the alternative is dying off starvation is not considered a crime.

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  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    What is your point?
    He purchased his high capacity clips from a US dealer, because those clips are illegal in Norway.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    He purchased his high capacity clips from a US dealer, because those clips are illegal in Norway.
    So failure to have a proper port authority and customs is somehow another countries fault?

    Also, those products are perfectly legal in many countries including the USA - how is it the USA's fault he illegally snuck in or imported those items?
    Last edited by TITAN308; 2016-05-03 at 07:03 PM.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    So failure to have a proper port authority and customs is somehow another countries fault?

    Also, those products are perfectly legal in many countries including the USA - how is it the USA's fault he illegally snuck in or imported those items?
    Did the US gun laws effect his access to those weapons or not? They did. End of story.

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    More shocking story, there is a an Arab-owned kebab grill in my state capitol near the main train station who gives away food for free to homeless people. People are actually fine with this.
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  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    Did the US gun laws effect his access to those weapons or not? They did. End of story.
    No that countries failure to control their imports is the end of the story. Keep grasping though.

    Also:

    Breivik wrote in his manifesto that while he could have purchased the high-capacity magazines in Sweden, they would have been significantly more expensive than ordering them from a U.S. supplier. He wrote that he spent $550 for the 10 clips. He also described legally buying four 30-round clips for a Glock handgun in Norway.
    I'm sorry but this argument is not going to go the way you want it to go.

    Better bring some of that hate towards Norway it seems! But we both know you won't.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Apparently its now legal to steal in In Italy if you are hungry according to their courts. Instead of throwing criminals in jail, they are just going to encourage more people to steal. Hell, why should I pay for food if everyone else doesnt. Just say you are hungry and take all you want for free. Nevermind that you are screwing the markets who wont be compensated for their losses. I hope they all close down in protest!!

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  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN308 View Post
    No that countries failure to control their imports is the end of the story. Keep grasping though.

    Also:



    I'm sorry but this argument is not going to go the way you want it to go.

    Better bring some of that hate towards Norway it seems! But we both know you won't.
    You still don't get it. Did the US laws have an effect? Yes, they did, unarguably. You can speculate out your ass all day about what could have been or may have been if things were different, but that's just you bloviating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblade View Post
    More shocking story, there is a an Arab-owned kebab grill in my state capitol near the main train station who gives away food for free to homeless people. People are actually fine with this.
    That is super cool of them.

    I personally would like to see more requirements to have all left over food from restaurants, to be sent to food banks at the end of the night. Some places do it, but not all places.

    We could feed a decent amount of our homeless with the food that gets thrown away each night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    You still don't get it. Did the US laws have an effect? Yes, they did, unarguably. You can speculate out your ass all day about what could have been or may have been if things were different, but that's just you bloviating.
    I'm pretty sure you are just full of shit and will find any stretch of the imagination to hold the USA responsible for other peoples / countries fuck ups. I sit with baited breath how you will blame the USA for his 30 round Glock magazine purchases (a product of Austria) from Norway.

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  13. #153
    As a full on precedent set by the court, this has room to get messy. Yes, people steal because they are hungry sometimes. But basically saying it is fine as long as you are hungry is going to open this up for abuse.

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    So...if they keep going down that path....will they offer sex to anyone so long as they can prove they are horny/desperate?? Just asking for a friend...

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    socialism going too far in italy if you ask me. aren't the italians in massive debt? no wonder if they use this type of system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GodlyBob View Post
    I never understood people who only abstained from bad behavior because it was illegal. What happened to being a good person? Is the threat of imprisonment the only thing keeping you from strangling your boss every other day rather than empathy for another human? If Crack were legal would you immediately go out and buy a kilo or two?

    Your own moral compass should be the reason you don't steal, murder, and kick puppies, not whether or not you think you can get away with it.
    But where does that moral compass come from? Your parents, you say? Or some similar source?

    So where did theirs come from? Do you see what I'm getting at here?

    Expecting people to be good " just because" is foolish.

    Either you believe in some sort of supernatural justice that can't possibly be fooled ( God, karma, etc) or you need a police force that is unutterably brutal and efficient. Why?

    Because when the sht hits the fan, everyone will do whatever they have to or want to. Depending on them to do right because " muh feelz" is hopelessly naive.

    Sure, some people will take a lot before they go full-on Lord of the Flies, but some don't take much at all to get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathandira View Post
    That is super cool of them.

    I personally would like to see more requirements to have all left over food from restaurants, to be sent to food banks at the end of the night. Some places do it, but not all places.

    We could feed a decent amount of our homeless with the food that gets thrown away each night.
    Grocery store I work at does that with all short-dated food each day. Some days you would not fkng believe how much we donate.

  17. #157
    I hate to break it to you, but necessity is a defense in common law countries like the US and England too. Perhaps you were confusing the modern world for the world of Les Misérables.

  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko Sora View Post
    So dead bodies on the street is preferable?
    Find a case of starvation in Italy absent another criminal activity such as neglect, abuse, or kidnapping, and you will have ground to stand on to ATTEMPT to make that argument.

  19. #159
    What else are they going to do? Fine people that are too poor to afford food? Imprison people for a very minor crime?

  20. #160
    Yea I'm not a fan of that ruling. If they want to keep people from starving, government and charities should be the ones fronting the bill; not the private businesses. Allocate funds for soup kitchens or create incentives for stores to host charity funds so customers can donate at the register.

    This guy brings up U.S. issues with food.
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