The Citadel (US military college) denies a potential students request to wear a hijab

[Underverse]

Are atheists also not allowed because not displaying any religious symbol IS displaying a religious symbol?

Lack of display is not evidence of display.

Atheism is not a religion.

[Kujako]

Are atheists also not allowed because not displaying any religious symbol IS displaying a religious symbol?

Well if you showed up in a full Church of Bacon ceremonial outfit there would be issues.

[Deleted]

Atheism is not a religion.

So is being a jedi considered a religion, then?

[Underverse]

So is being a jedi considered a religion, then?

Wat

If someone can actually use the force, and it can be verified through science, then no. The same goes for other behavioral traits.

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Wat

If someone can actually use the force, and it can be verified through science, then no.

Why not? lol

[Beazy]

Wrong. Go read the Federalist Papers and get back to me.

Where in the federalist papers is this? Which number and which author.

I'll wait. . . . . . . .

[Underverse]

Why not? lol

Because religious opinion by definition falls outside the realm of observable, verifiable phenomena.

[Deleted]

Because religious opinion by definition falls outside the realm of observable, verifiable phenomena.

But jedi believe that the Force is an intelligent entity that has a will of its own even if the jedi are allowed to borrow its power for their own gain. Thus their use of the Force is real, but they also believe the Force is similar to a god, which can't be verified by science.

[Underverse]

But jedi believe that the Force is an intelligent entity that has a will of its own even if the jedi are allowed to borrow its power for their own gain. Thus their use of the Force is real, but they also believe the Force is similar to a god, which can't be verified by science.

If they have beliefs that cannot be verified, then they are spiritual. if they are organized, they are religious.

This is a stupid conversation.

[judgementofantonidas]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ear-her-hijab/





This just strikes me as someone trying to claim "discrimination!" when the school clearly has a dress code in place for all students, not just Muslims.

there is a uniform. it is called a uniform for a reason. uniformity.

[Reeve]

I don't see any issue with the military school setting its dress code for all attendees, particularly when there may be practical reasons for that dress code.

[Valizix]

http://www.stripes.com/news/us/the-c...hijab-1.408942

O'h the IRONY

"A complete denial was very shocking," he said. They had expected their request to be granted. "The father said, 'We live in a land of laws. These outdated traditions violate that law' " that protects religious freedom, Hooper said.

[Berengil]

Christian cadets have been told not to display crosses, for example.

Then everyone is treated equally. No religious symbols of any kind permitted. I wish more places were like this.

[McFuu]

So is being a jedi considered a religion, then?

The military actually allows you to display Jedi as your religion on dog tags. Reason being the federal government puts no restriction on what a person sees or claims as a religion. There-for the military doesn't restrict claiming Jedi as a religion.

[Ausr]

So is being a jedi considered a religion, then?

My brother requested that the religion on his dogtags be Jedi. They allowed it.

[Spectral]

“There are Muslim women wearing hijab in our nation’s military,” he said. “ … Whether it’s hijab or beards or turbans, to cling to these outdated ‘traditions’ merely out of a sense of not wanting to change anything is, I think, untenable in this day and age and in our increasingly diverse society.”

I'm shocked that the CAIR grifter went to the, "it's the current year" year argument

[Ahovv]

Not allowing her goes against everything America stands for.

Really sad!

Bullshit. If I join the military I don't get to claim "My religion restricts killing!"

[Northy]

Not allowing her goes against everything America stands for.

Really sad!

Oy vey. Think first, then post.

[Ghostpanther]

Not allowing her goes against everything America stands for.

Really sad!

You are not allowed to wear a beard in the US Army ether. Does that go against freedom of choice? When you are in the military you lose some parts of our rights. Such as freedom of speech to the extent you can not speak publicly bad about your Commander in Chief. The President of the US. :P Which is why you now see several retired generals speaking against Obama. They could not when they were active.

The Citadel in this case has the right to deny her request. She does not like it, she can pick a different school to attend.

[Powerogue]

Like you said it seems consistent with the dress code. Given the other requirements I'm willing to bet hats and other head coverings are off limits.

The military actually allows you to display Jedi as your religion on dog tags. Reason being the federal government puts no restriction on what a person sees or claims as a religion. There-for the military doesn't restrict claiming Jedi as a religion.

I guess the pastafarians getting their ID photos in religious garb set the precedent. They can't say "that's not a real religion!" because then they'd have to go through the mess of deciding which religions are "authentic." I'm sure there's at least one non-sarcastic Jedi out there.