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    Legion alpha PvP stinks

    ...but is anyone really surprised? Just take a look at the Blizz alpha forums:

    Most people I talk to on beta are not happy with the direction legion PvP is heading you can take you're pick of reasons between the pruning or the overall state of PVP being a huge damage/self healing fest that it is.

    Even with all the classes tuned properly we will still be left with huge mess that is legion pvp.

    it would be really nice if in theses next few months if The Devs were more vocal with the pvp community it really feels like we are being hung out to dry. Holinka's is more or less non existent in this community that should show you how committed blizzard is to PVP

    106 days until launch we'll see if they get wasted.
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743815149

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743604642

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20742834312

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743726290

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743675882


    Blizz will be just as happy if you spend the 60 bucks for Overwatch and put your WoW toons on the shelf. As it stands right now though, I won't be buying either OW or Legion.

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    Holinka is indeed strangly absent in all this.

    I agree that it all doesnt look good, but I am going to wait for the final impressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    ...but is anyone really surprised? Just take a look at the Blizz alpha forums:



    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743815149

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743604642

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20742834312

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743726290

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743675882


    Blizz will be just as happy if you spend the 60 bucks for Overwatch and put your WoW toons on the shelf. As it stands right now though, I won't be buying either OW or Legion.
    Lol that's exactly what I'm doing.
    1) Load the amount of weight I would deadlift onto the bench
    2) Unrack
    3) Crank out 15 reps
    4) Be ashamed of constantly skipping leg day

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    Less dependent on healers? Sounds great, maybe Horde has a chance to win something in the Legion then?
    Mother pus bucket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by willtron View Post
    Lol that's exactly what I'm doing.
    Yeah, support a company that makes shit titles like HotS, or turns decent ones like Diablo and WoW into shit - all for ever more profit & greed.


    Brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankbug View Post
    Less dependent on healers? Sounds great, maybe Horde has a chance to win something in the Legion then?
    It's not nearly as simple as just "less dependent on healers". Try getting informed before commenting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    Yeah, support a company that makes shit titles like HotS, or turns decent ones like Diablo and WoW into shit - all for ever more profit & greed.


    Brilliant.
    And support a company that makes fun games like Overwatch.
    1) Load the amount of weight I would deadlift onto the bench
    2) Unrack
    3) Crank out 15 reps
    4) Be ashamed of constantly skipping leg day

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    Quote Originally Posted by willtron View Post
    And support a company that makes fun games like Overwatch.
    Not fun for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmilblick View Post
    Not fun for me.
    No one said you have to buy it.
    1) Load the amount of weight I would deadlift onto the bench
    2) Unrack
    3) Crank out 15 reps
    4) Be ashamed of constantly skipping leg day

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    Quote Originally Posted by willtron View Post
    No one said you have to buy it.
    Then precise that it's fun for YOU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    Yeah, support a company that makes shit titles like HotS, or turns decent ones like Diablo and WoW into shit - all for ever more profit & greed.


    Brilliant.
    Hots is fun, Diablo is fun, WoW was fun until now-ish, the drought has finally come.
    Seems like you can't accept that game companies make money, perhaps you should dedicate yourself to free games made by students and startups that are trying to get noticed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    It's not nearly as simple as just "less dependent on healers". Try getting informed before commenting.
    Well that appeared to be the gist of it, but quite frankly, I don't care. For me, PVP has been dead since vanilla.
    Mother pus bucket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankbug View Post
    Hots is fun, Diablo is fun, WoW was fun until now-ish, the drought has finally come.
    Seems like you can't accept that game companies make money, ...
    The "make money" excuse has been debunked long ago. Wrecking a game or allowing it to be wrecked as Blizz does in the name of profit (encouraging rampant cheating in Rated by letting it happen; D3 RMAH; etc.) may be good for those making the money, but not for anyone else.

    One can make a decent profit and not do those things. It's when greed goes extreme that it ruins things.

    Get a better meme.
    Last edited by Caolela; 2016-05-19 at 03:24 PM.

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    On topic. WoW PvP is an afterthought and basically a mini game, they even said adding arena was probably a mistake.
    1) Load the amount of weight I would deadlift onto the bench
    2) Unrack
    3) Crank out 15 reps
    4) Be ashamed of constantly skipping leg day

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    Played a few BGs, it's pretty bad. Especially the "hype" surrounding the new honor system is something I cannot fathom. It's a few talents that you can pick (most of which are passive or pretty bland, at least for Arms) and useless stuff like crests that are shown instead of the low-res Alliance/ Horde emblem in the left upper corner next to your character icon or reskinned mounts. Really nothing to write home about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willtron View Post
    On topic. WoW PvP is an afterthought and basically a mini game, they even said adding arena was probably a mistake.
    Yet they promote arena World Champ tourneys at every Blizzcon, and quickly ban anyone that would be a potential cheater. It's a "mini-game", "an afterthought", but the arena tourneys are always a big deal at Blizzcon where they have play-by-play commentary from Lore and two others, with serious money prizes.

    Anyone see the blatant inconsistency here?

    IOW, it's OK when it makes them money, but not OK when their cost-benefit analysis says it'll take some overhead to fix PvP for everyone else.
    Last edited by Caolela; 2016-05-19 at 05:08 PM.

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    I played some PvP on the beta. I don't like where this is going. Everything is funneling into a tank-hybrid dps selfhealing meta, where people live >10s and tanks are gods.

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    Aside from some specs doing ridiculous damage, tanks being insane and sub rogues having crazy mobility I'm really enjoying Legion Beta PvP. Seems like I'm the odd one out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OzCymru View Post
    Aside from some specs doing ridiculous damage, tanks being insane and sub rogues having crazy mobility I'm really enjoying Legion Beta PvP. Seems like I'm the odd one out!
    Read some of the links I posted, and there are more on the Blizz forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    Read some of the links I posted, and there are more on the Blizz forums.
    I've read many of the PvP related forum posts so I'm aware that by liking the Legion PvP I'm in the minority.

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    Everyone is entitled to have their own opinion. I was in the alpha and now in beta, and I really like these changes alot ! Just need a bit of tuning , and it will be all good I see more pros than cons

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    arena has never felt this boring, absolutely disgusting.

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