Upgrade to Windows 10 or stick with 7 ?

[Eleccybubb]

For those of us who are adults and can do a clean installation of Windows 10, it is superior to Windows 7. Also, if you must, there are a number of things you can do to make it feel more like Windows 7. For example, turning off Quick Access in File Explorer and also adding the traditional Pictures, Documents, Videos, Music, etc. Folders back to the Start Menu.

In my line of work, I've done hundreds of Windows 10 clean installs and dealt with customers who have gone the upgrade path. The upgrade sometimes works, but for the most part, the upgrade usually causes more issues. A clean install is the only way to get a true Windows 10 experience and unless you have worked with a clean install of 10, you more than likely aren't qualified to say whether or not Windows 7 is a better option or not.

At the end of the day, make the choice for yourself. Windows 7 is still great for a lot of people. It is supported until 2020 so there's no real hurry to change. But as for me, I have been on Windows 10 since it launched and have had a good experience. There are some things that bother me such as no "Computer" button on the start menu, but "Windows + X" gives me all I needed that for anyways, or the inability to create a shortcut to the desktop by right clicking on the program in the start menu. You have to right click ---> more ---> open file location and THEN right click on the icon to send it to the desktop as a shortcut. These are nitpicky things and I have learned to work around them and they don't really bother me anymore.

Tbh I just upgraded mine and it was running fine. Although turns out I was on an RTM build for months when there was a more recent one out so installed it.

[Provenance]

Tbh I just upgraded mine and it was running fine. Although turns out I was on an RTM build for months when there was a more recent one out so installed it.

Yeah! The upgrade SOMETIMES does great. Lol. I think you're most likely to encounter issues with the upgrade when upgrading from Windows 7 as opposed to 8.1 and if your hardware is older.

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Also I will say that as the upgrade has been available longer, I have seen less problems with it. Initially, it was pretty bad.

AND as a lot of others have already said, you will need to upgrade/clean install anyways for gaming soon so you may as well do it while it's free.

[Eleccybubb]

Yeah! The upgrade SOMETIMES does great. Lol. I think you're most likely to encounter issues with the upgrade when upgrading from Windows 7 as opposed to 8.1 and if your hardware is older.

FX 6350, GTX 660 and no issues from day 1 apart from the Nvidia driver issue everybody had. As for the other issue that was just VIA trying to install itself which I dealt with easily.

[Lathais]

I joked about the free-cost in my little dialogue, you'll see.

(I only play WoW, btw.)

If you never, ever, plan on playing any other game ever again, ok, sure, no need for W10, until 2020/2023 when support for 7/8.1 ends and you will not even get basic security updates leaving your system vulnerable to people much more malicious than MS. Then you'll have to actually pay to upgrade, unless you upgrade now for free.

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Yeah! The upgrade SOMETIMES does great. Lol. I think you're most likely to encounter issues with the upgrade when upgrading from Windows 7 as opposed to 8.1 and if your hardware is older.

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Also I will say that as the upgrade has been available longer, I have seen less problems with it. Initially, it was pretty bad.

AND as a lot of others have already said, you will need to upgrade/clean install anyways for gaming soon so you may as well do it while it's free.

It has more to do with how long it has been installed and what changes have been made to it over time than what version you are upgrading from. If upgrading from a fresh clean install of W7 I'd expect no problems, but an install of 8.1 that has been there since 8.1 came out, I'd expect issues.

[Ealyssa]

Privacy thing really isn't as bad as people are making it out to be though.

Especially when it's all about "Oh no I don't want microsoft having the informations facebook and google allready know, use and sell"

[Provenance]

If you never, ever, plan on playing any other game ever again, ok, sure, no need for W10, until 2020/2023 when support for 7/8.1 ends and you will not even get basic security updates leaving your system vulnerable to people much more malicious than MS. Then you'll have to actually pay to upgrade, unless you upgrade now for free.

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It has more to do with how long it has been installed and what changes have been made to it over time than what version you are upgrading from. If upgrading from a fresh clean install of W7 I'd expect no problems, but an install of 8.1 that has been there since 8.1 came out, I'd expect issues.

I see. That makes sense. I'd agree that age of previous OS install would definitely play a factor.

[Deleted]

So i have had the windows 10 notification for a while. Always popping up saying upgrade to windows 10. I've always closed it (Wasnt sure if i should upgrade to it or not). However, it seems that i haven't got a choice anymore as its downloaded the update and its ready to install soon i a click shutdown.

So, is windows 10 worth upgrading to? I seem to see a lot of negative feedback about it. Will 10 use up more resources such as hard drive space and Ram usage? Shall i revert back to 7 once it updates to 10?

im currently using 7. I find that 7 is perfect. no clutter, no useless crap. loads really quickly with instant navigation between applications. I mainly use excel, word and access, with the occasional gaming session (wow, diablo, counterstrike). Have had no problems.

So, Win 10 or 7 ?

(Thanks in advance for any opinions)

It's definitely what I consider an upgrade as you put it, yourself, in the title. It is using less resources, has better memory management, better multi monitor support out of the box. That said, you have no issues now and if you're happy with what you currently use then there is no harm in staying with the old Windows 7. Long term it will save you some money as Windows 10 won't be free for much longer.

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If privacy is your concern why on earth would you use chrome?

Or the internet in general

[OreoLover]

If you never, ever, plan on playing any other game ever again, ok, sure, no need for W10, until 2020/2023 when support for 7/8.1 ends and you will not even get basic security updates leaving your system vulnerable to people much more malicious than MS. Then you'll have to actually pay to upgrade, unless you upgrade now for free.

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It has more to do with how long it has been installed and what changes have been made to it over time than what version you are upgrading from. If upgrading from a fresh clean install of W7 I'd expect no problems, but an install of 8.1 that has been there since 8.1 came out, I'd expect issues.

4 years to upgrade my system, seems reasonable! Which also pretty much nullifies the DX12 advantage period lol.

Again, my system would expect issues, by your own post. Honestly, I can't even clean install without expecting some hard drive headaches. So pushing my install back (to a new computer) is worth the price of admission.

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For those of us who are adults and can do a clean installation of Windows 10

In my line of work, I've done hundreds of Windows 10 clean installs

This has everything to do with your line of work, not your stage of adulthood :|

I am an adult who does not wish to waste the time nor invite the problems ("The upgrade sometimes works, but for the most part, the upgrade usually causes more issues").

[analmoose]

Are you using something like Tor browser now? Have you never bought anything online? If not you've been doing this for years already and I bet didn't even know it yourself.

Why does everyone assume its credit card information or banking details people want kept private? You do realize they can track and prevent anything you torrent right? If you use cracked software they can detect that and prevent its use. There are a lot of reason, and before you say just buy it, No, I would have already if I wanted to or felt it was worth the money.

[Lathais]

Why does everyone assume its credit card information or banking details people want kept private? You do realize they can track and prevent anything you torrent right? If you use cracked software they can detect that and prevent its use. There are a lot of reason, and before you say just buy it, No, I would have already if I wanted to or felt it was worth the money.

They can, but they have been able to that for a while now and they don't. Your ISP can see when you torrent to and cut you off, but in my experience they don't.

[Ringthane]

That's not the point though is it. When getting a mortgage or insurance or credit card comparison you are inviting scrutiny because those companies are taking risk in business with you. Scrutiny is not the same thing as underhand surveillance.

As for whether or not microsoft care, would you let your local police force install a CCTV camera in your home that was only monitored in the case of a crime? Nobody would agree to such an invasion of privacy that could easily be abused. It is the same with windows 10, I'm sure microsoft don't care about my usage habits, but the potential for abuse is there and that's what irks people.

Ummm... Did you ever notice those camera-looking things in all the stores you go to? Those might - might - be cameras. There's cameras all over the place. There are drones in the sky. There are people recording and listening to your telephone calls. There are things online right now that track every website you go to, and tailor the ads to fit your browsing preferences.

If you think your privacy is at risk because of a computer operating system, you've had your head so far in the sand that you can see the ocean, and you've managed to miss everything that actually happened in the last twenty years. You're under more surveillance if you go outside your house, than you are from any computer program.

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Why does everyone assume its credit card information or banking details people want kept private? You do realize they can track and prevent anything you torrent right? If you use cracked software they can detect that and prevent its use. There are a lot of reason, and before you say just buy it, No, I would have already if I wanted to or felt it was worth the money.

So your argument is "I want to keep the illegal things I do private, so I don't get caught and get my toys taken away"?

As I look around at the things I have on my desk, I realize that most of them - in fact, all of them - could form a more reasonable and intelligent argument for privacy than anything in your post.

[Deleted]

They are giving you a free OS...

So they have ditched the whole "per device" -clause, where the upgrade is fixed to the device you have at the moment of upgrading? I mean, what if you happen to switch your processor? RAM? Motherboard? At what point does it stop being the "same device", and at what point will you no longer have a "free OS"?

Also, was it complete BS that I read, that when you upgrade your Windows 7 to 10, you can no longer continue to use the Windows 7 as Windows 7, as it's not "tagged" to have been upgraded, and you have to then install Windows 10 every time on top of the 7 when you do a clean install? And, if that's the case, wouldn't that mean you can't use the same Windows 7, from a disc, on a future computer, ever again?

Because, I mean, if it'd be so simple as having a free Windows 10 for every single computer you buy from here to eternity, just like if you had bought a disc, then that'd make it a bit better. But apparently that's not the case?

And even still, upgrading from one OS to another OS is never a good idea. Best to format and do a proper clean install. And for that, you need a Windows 10 on a disc. And to have it on a disc, you have to pay for it.

[Lathais]

So they have ditched the whole "per device" -clause, where the upgrade is fixed to the device you have at the moment of upgrading? I mean, what if you happen to switch your processor? RAM? Motherboard? At what point does it stop being the "same device", and at what point will you no longer have a "free OS"?

Also, was it complete BS that I read, that when you upgrade your Windows 7 to 10, you can no longer continue to use the Windows 7 as Windows 7, as it's not "tagged" to have been upgraded, and you have to then install Windows 10 every time on top of the 7 when you do a clean install? And, if that's the case, wouldn't that mean you can't use the same Windows 7, from a disc, on a future computer, ever again?

Because, I mean, if it'd be so simple as having a free Windows 10 for every single computer you buy from here to eternity, just like if you had bought a disc, then that'd make it a bit better. But apparently that's not the case?

And even still, upgrading from one OS to another OS is never a good idea. Best to format and do a proper clean install. And for that, you need a Windows 10 on a disc. And to have it on a disc, you have to pay for it.

Not true. Anyone and their brothers can use the Media Creation Tool to create either a Flash Drive that you can install from or a Disc or create and .iso and burn it to a disk yourself. You just need the key to install it.

As far as moving W10, I have already heard of people that have successfully moved it to entirely new systems without problems. Just online, so take with a grain of salt, but they are people that have never given me reason to doubt them. I think this policy may change after the "free" period ends though. It would make little to no sense for them to stop charging for licenses on new machines if you have an old one you can move it from. IMO, this will likely be tied to the motherboard/UEFI.

[Deleted]

I upgraded and didn't notice any annoyances.

What IS (will be annoying) is when I have to reinstall Windows 10 from a Window 8.1 dvd and it will download the entire Library of the Congress, and it already takes me 6 hours to install Windows 8.1 and all it's updates, God those fucking updates take forever to fucking install.

Gonna be fun.

[Gaidax]

Get it while it's free... point is, you WILL have to get it eventually anyway, why resist really? It's a pretty good iteration of Windows and the whole "privacy" outcry is laughable really.

[Provenance]

I upgraded and didn't notice any annoyances.

What IS (will be annoying) is when I have to reinstall Windows 10 from a Window 8.1 dvd and it will download the entire Library of the Congress, and it already takes me 6 hours to install Windows 8.1 and all it's updates, God those fucking updates take forever to fucking install.

Gonna be fun.

You will not need to do this. Create a Windows 10 USB from the Upgrade tool and just install directly to your computer. It will automatically detect that you have upgraded to Windows 10 on that hardware and automatically activate. No need to reinstall from 8.1 media.

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And the best part is, when you create the Windows 10 media, you will be getting the absolute latest build of Windows 10! Very minimal updates. Should only take you one restart.

[talwynn]

Upgraded to 10. Installed chrome and told Cortana to use google instead of bing.

[Lathais]

I upgraded and didn't notice any annoyances.

What IS (will be annoying) is when I have to reinstall Windows 10 from a Window 8.1 dvd and it will download the entire Library of the Congress, and it already takes me 6 hours to install Windows 8.1 and all it's updates, God those fucking updates take forever to fucking install.

Gonna be fun.

No, you do not need to install 8.1 first from a 8.1 DVD. You can simply make your own Flash Drive, DVD or .ISO to install from. You can get it right here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

Just scroll down to where it says "Download Tool Now" and if you have a 4GB Flash Drive(who doesn't have one at least that size nowadays? If you don't, I am sure a friend has one you could borrow) and you can install W10 directly from that with no need of a Win 8.1 DVD. I did this this weekend because I wanted a clean install instead of the upgraded install and it took nowhere near 6 hours. Was more like 30-45 minutes IIRC. I was doing other things at the time so not entirely sure, but pretty sure it was less than an hour for sure.

[Deleted]

Oh, thanks for that tool. I didn't know about it.

[l33t]

Get it while it's free... point is, you WILL have to get it eventually anyway, why resist really? It's a pretty good iteration of Windows and the whole "privacy" outcry is laughable really.

For what reason, really?

Like, if you wanna know, I usually just switch OS to a more modern one when I change PCs, and I usually change PCs once per ~4 years. I go, buy absolutely the best I can get for my money, install latest OS to it and forget about all the OS hassle for years. Hell, I even stopped updating my 8.1 when something broke and some weird os update looped my pc into reboot cycle. And guess what, since I've stopped updating it, I have absolutely zero troubles - my PC runs for months without me turning it off, I install and uninstall tons of games, and everything is fine. Why would I bother installing an OS which I have to heavily tune for my needs right after installment, when I already have great OS which is up and running and which gives me zero troubles? Because its free? Bah. Its not free. It requires hours and hours of my personal time to tune it.