Thank you Blizzard for giving Overwatch diversity.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

I like having a diverse cast. Much better than "angry caucasian male stereotypes #s 1-22".



The central issue here is that you see the "default" setting to be X, for a character, so there has to be a "reason" to deviate from that default. Typically, that means "caucasian dude in his 20s or 30s". By your argument, if the character's a woman, that has to be "important to the story", when it WASN'T important that he was a man, in the first place. Same for being gay, when being hetero was irrelevant, or black, when there's no reason he has to be white in the first place.

You don't need "reasons" for a character to be a teenage black lesbian rather than a 25 year old straight white dude. She is who she is. That's the story being told. Why do you have an issue with that? Why aren't you asking for the same justifications for more stereotypical characters?

Hell, in a lot of cases, you should be able to flip a character's gender or orientation or ethnicity, and have little to no effect on the story, unless that story's focused on that characteristic. Particularly if it's in a sci-fi/fantasy setting, where you can determine how much any of that "matters", culturally speaking. For instance, take Spider-man. Imagine he was a brand-new character with no history whatsoever, just introduced in Captain America: Civil War. Why would it "matter" that Parker's a white dude with a girlfriend? How is his story really all that different if he's a hispanic girl with the same girlfriend? Or a black girl with a boyfriend named Marty Jay? None of these factors are particularly relevant to Spider-man, and the central themes of power and responsibility. Which is why Ultimate Spidey dying and the mantle being taken up by a hispanic kid named Miles Morales worked so well. Because Parker's being white wasn't a factor to Spiderman. If anything, being a minority makes the "hated for the good he does" theme a little sharper.

Thank you so much Endus for the explaination and agreeing with me on this matter! Means a lot! You've earned a big ++1 from me!

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Bet you they will patch in transgender bathrooms too

Was this really necessary?

[Suggs]

Whatever happened to loading up a game and having fun, nowadays its all about is it gay? is its skin black? does it fuck someone of the same sex? does it have a cock under its frock.....etc etc
If it doesnt someone will get offended.
Sad cunts...

[Defect]

"diversity" its the same fucking countries everytime a game attempts to bring lots of nationalities.

[spinner981]

It is what breathes life into a game? Bull crap. You know what breathes life into a game? Gameplay.

Race/sex/country of origin has nothing to do with playstyle. I don't play games just to 'identify' with my character, I play them to have fun, and if you are playing them in order to 'identify' with a character then you are probably missing out on a lot of good games for no good reason. If you want to identify with a character, go read a book.

Furthermore, Blizzard will never implement enough races/sexualities/countries of origin/otherkin in order to please everybody.

Do I like having a diverse cast? Ya, sure. That said, it's not about their race or sexuality, their diversity comes from their personality, which does not rely on simply changing skin color or 'sexuality' to make them token in order to quell SJWs who would call the game bigoted for not containing a lesbian, a Mexican and an Eskimo.

Was this really necessary?

Only if they want to be inclusive to 'all people', and if they want to avoid protests.

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Thank you so much Endus for [...] agreeing with me

ahhahahahaha holy shit this is EXACTLY what is fucking wrong with you

kill yourself

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[Defect]

New Character concept: Native American who also happens to be a furry.

who also happens to be a pedophile, that should include everyone

[spinner981]

I like having a diverse cast. Much better than "angry caucasian male stereotypes #s 1-22".



The central issue here is that you see the "default" setting to be X, for a character, so there has to be a "reason" to deviate from that default. Typically, that means "caucasian dude in his 20s or 30s". By your argument, if the character's a woman, that has to be "important to the story", when it WASN'T important that he was a man, in the first place. Same for being gay, when being hetero was irrelevant, or black, when there's no reason he has to be white in the first place.

You don't need "reasons" for a character to be a teenage black lesbian rather than a 25 year old straight white dude. She is who she is. That's the story being told. Why do you have an issue with that? Why aren't you asking for the same justifications for more stereotypical characters?

Hell, in a lot of cases, you should be able to flip a character's gender or orientation or ethnicity, and have little to no effect on the story, unless that story's focused on that characteristic. Particularly if it's in a sci-fi/fantasy setting, where you can determine how much any of that "matters", culturally speaking. For instance, take Spider-man. Imagine he was a brand-new character with no history whatsoever, just introduced in Captain America: Civil War. Why would it "matter" that Parker's a white dude with a girlfriend? How is his story really all that different if he's a hispanic girl with the same girlfriend? Or a black girl with a boyfriend named Marty Jay? None of these factors are particularly relevant to Spider-man, and the central themes of power and responsibility. Which is why Ultimate Spidey dying and the mantle being taken up by a hispanic kid named Miles Morales worked so well. Because Parker's being white wasn't a factor to Spiderman. If anything, being a minority makes the "hated for the good he does" theme a little sharper.

If you don't need a 'reason' for a character to be X rather than a straight white male or whatever, then you shouldn't need a 'reason' for a character to be a straight white male rather than X. But that's not what we see coming from the 'group' of whoever they are demanding diversity in gaming. If the entire cast of Overwatch was white people would be upset, some would be furiously upset. But using this reasoning they would have no more reason to be upset than somebody would be upset for Blizzard to include however many different races/sexualities/etc. that they want.

who also happens to be a pedophile, that should include everyone

I dunno, does the game contain a scientologist yet?

[Alarinth]

This has gone on long enough, closing the thread due to a total lack of civilized tone. You may discuss this in a new thread if you wish, but stay civilized and on topic if you do so.