No you cant under EU rules contries can not veto trade agrementsHey guess what, we could have vetoed it and France was most likely to anyway.
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/in-...s/index_en.htm
- - - Updated - - -Decision - EU governments and MEPs decide
After the text is legally revised and translated, we'll give it to:
governments of the EU's 28 Member States
the European Parliament
And then a final decision comes with a double democratic guarantee.
EU governments and MEPs will decide between them whether to back it - not the Commission.
Except it won't benefit you. Free movement of Labour won't be halted;
https://twitter.com/SimonNRicketts/s...74762575929344
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/stat...15177650868224
https://twitter.com/DanHannanMEP/sta...32399388303360
Last edited by Shadowmelded; 2016-06-26 at 02:27 AM.
My Nan who didnt care if the Dow jones went down 500 points, she didnt care that Britain wont be as powerful on the world stage against Russia etc, she didnt care that nobody in Europe can freely travel to Britain now BUT what she did care was she can now see her doctor without having to wait weeks for an appointment so she voted out for her own self interest.
Now SHE WENT OUT AND VOTED BUT DID ALL OF YOU? Seeing all these millennials crying cause they lost the vote but they prolly didn't even bother to register makes me laugh so fucking much.
The old vote won this because the youth vote couldn't be fucking bothered to vote but now they are bitching oh the irony!
Last edited by Madeupname999; 2016-06-26 at 02:26 AM.
Wish i could post the link to prove you cant but alass i have posted enough yet
there's rather a lot of them and it won't come for free to be included or to draft new ones. It's not uncommon for individual deals to have taken 2-10 years to have been negotiated and refined. If we end up acting like the other EEA members then there will be a price for just being bundled in to the existing ones. This will likely cost what we were paying before and they could perhaps even extend extra criteria if they thought we now had to buy into that (e.g. Shengen area, for which we negotiated an exception while a full member). So really we will at best get no additional benefits, no savings, and no longer have any veto or voting rights. Potentially a bunch of lawyer types will make some money out of it. Kinda funny when the main basis of the protest vote that had nothing really to do with the EU is rooted in "anti-elite sentiment".
Millennial here, voted. The NHS won't be seeing improvements either;
https://twitter.com/Davewwest/status/746214185692889088
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7099906.html
I just linked you the European Commission which says that the Council and Parliament both get a say in it. Here's the Council's powers;
http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/
It doesn't get any more authoritative than that.4. Concludes international agreements
The Council provides the mandate to the Commission to negotiate on behalf of the EU agreements between the EU and non-EU countries and international organisations. At the end of negotiations, the Council decides on the signature and conclusion of the agreement, based on a proposal from the Commission. The Council also adopts the final decision to conclude the agreement, once the Parliament has given its consent (required in areas subject to co-decision) and it has been ratified by all EU member states.
Last edited by Shadowmelded; 2016-06-26 at 02:40 AM.
I'm glad leavers won. Remainers live in a fantasy world in every category except capitalism and arguably the internet.
Last edited by PC2; 2016-06-26 at 02:43 AM.
In addition, I note that the draft TTIP mandate does not mention criminal measures. Criminal measures were the reason that the EU member states had a veto on ACTA (Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement). With ACTA, the member states negotiated the criminal measures. After the negotiations, the Commission proposed ACTA as a mixed agreement to Council and Parliament. A mixed agreement has to be ratified by the EU and the member states. This gives the national parliaments a strong position.
The draft TTIP / TAFTA mandate notes about the negotiations that the Commission will negotiate, in consultation with the member states in the appropriate committee of the Council. No role for the member states in the negotiations itself.
The consequence of this approach is that the Commission may, after the negotiations, exercise its competence, and make an EU only proposal for adoption by the Council (after consent by the Parliament). The Council shall decide with a qualified majority to ratify. No member states ratification is needed, no strong role for national parliaments.
Basically, if the Commission negotiates some goodies for the German industry, and some goodies for some other big EU member states (having most votes in Council and Parliament), a majority for the proposed agreement is as good as certain, however bad it may be for the interests of smaller EU member states, for the public interest, democracy, access to medicine and human rights.
Basically, if the Commission negotiates some goodies for the German industry, and some goodies for some other big EU member states (having most votes in Council and Parliament), a majority for the proposed agreement is as good as certain, however bad it may be for the interests of smaller EU member states, for the public interest, democracy, access to medicine and human rights.
The mandate is very broad. If the Council authorises the Commission to negotiate, the smaller member states will have lost their grip on the outcome. They may like to take a good look at the mandate.
this a post from a MEP
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All these young people complaining about old people ruining the vote, will one day be old people ruining the votes themselves.
Yeah basically. And the fact they are calling for a redo , and the revication of old people's right t vote, is fucking pitiful. I can't wait till this generatin gets old and our kids start reversing all the fucked yo laws we start passing. It will be easy to do since the elderly won't be able to vote.
They'll save that one for last.