[Spoilers] Khadgar's title

[WolfRider]

I don't remember if it's been already discussed, but is Khadgar officially the new Guardian of Tirisfal?
Because in Legion he can be found in Dalaran, in a new location called the Chamber of the Guardian.
He has Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian.
He was Medivh's apprentice.
In the movie, there's a lot of winks about him being the next Guardian.
If he's not, is there something in Legion that will grant him the Guardian's powers?

[Radaney]

He is not the Guardian. Other Mages haven't poured their abilities into him.

I suspect he will try to convince them that he should become the next Guardian, or that we clearly need one and well... he's the most obvious candidate.

Khadgar is basically Medivh already, flying around as a Bird rallying everyone. If you compare the scenes where Medivh speaks to Terenas and the scene where Khadgar speaks to Varian they are basically identical.

Although we don't really need a Guardian anymore. Because us the Players already fulfill the same purpose.

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Would be funny if it happened only to enforce how Blizzard, unlike all they claim, are trying VERY hard now to make Med'an (aka the thing) vanish.

[Lylandra]

I don't remember if it's been already discussed, but is Khadgar officially the new Guardian of Tirisfal?
Because in Legion he can be found in Dalaran, in a new location called the Chamber of the Guardian.
He has Atiesh, Greatstaff of the Guardian.
He was Medivh's apprentice.
In the movie, there's a lot of winks about him being the next Guardian.
If he's not, is there something in Legion that will grant him the Guardian's powers?

There is no new Guardian in the Original Universe. Movie!Khadgar might have inherited Medivhs powers, but that is yet to see. Book!Khadgar could have become Medivh's predecessor, but Medivh died without passing his powers onto someone. So, maybe the Guardian power vanished, maybe it lies somewhere dormant or maybe the power was key to getting Medivh back into the mortal world (with the help of his mother's magic).

Yes, he has Atiesh, but I don't know whether the Staff has any true power. We know that Aegwynn wielded Aluneth for some time and that Alodi (the first Guardian) had his own staff as well.

(And yes I know that there is also he-who-should-not-be-named, the Shamageadin of doom who kind of is or is not a "new" kind of Guardian. But I won't touch that topic and I hope Blizz will just let it disappear or make it noncanon already).

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He is not the Guardian. Other Mages haven't poured their abilities into him.

That's not how it works since Aegwyn.

[Radaney]

That's not how it works since Aegwyn.

Aegwynn was empowered by the Tirisfalen.

Medivh was a special case because Aegwynn gave birth and passed her powers on that way but that's not exactly ever going to happen again with Medivh being dead and all so how else are they going to make a new Guardian?

It's not like they haven't done the story already with Med'an who is retconned.

[Garfurion]

That's not how it works since Aegwyn.

Aegwyn transferred the power she got into her unborn son, but that power was lost/released when Medivh was killed.

Me'dan still needed power to be transferred to him when he became a Guardian.

[FlemmMinis]

He is not the Guardian. Other Mages haven't poured their abilities into him.

I suspect he will try to convince them that he should become the next Guardian, or that we clearly need one and well... he's the most obvious candidate.

Khadgar is basically Medivh already, flying around as a Bird rallying everyone. If you compare the scenes where Medivh speaks to Terenas and the scene where Khadgar speaks to Varian they are basically identical.

Although we don't really need a Guardian anymore. Because us the Players already fulfill the same purpose.

And the moment the council pours it's powers onto him, he turns evil. Khadgar final boss confirmed.

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When flying to azsuna, to start questing there, khadgar flies alongside you and mentions that the crow form he assumes comes from the staff, so it has some powers, but how much is yet to be seen.

[Ealyssa]

That's not how it works since Aegwyn.

It actually is.

The last guardian Azeroth had : Med'an (still canon, no mather how people here like to hate him). Was empowered by the new council of Tirisfal reformed by Jaina, Aegwynn and Meryl.

[Enthralled]

Please don't shoot me but didn't Thrall technically became the Guardian of Tirisfal during Cata?

lmao. No he did not.

[WolfRider]

It actually is.

The last guardian Azeroth had : Med'an (still canon, no mather how people here like to hate him). Was empowered by the new council of Tirisfal reformed by Jaina, Aegwynn and Meryl.

How can it be canon since we've never seen or heard of Me'dan in game, and who's most "adventures" involve NPC we killed or that we're going to kill (and that Med'an kills in the comics).
No please no, Me'dan sucks, from A to Z, his story is a teenage marketing shit, a pure fan-tasy.

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It actually is.

The last guardian Azeroth had : Med'an (still canon, no mather how people here like to hate him). Was empowered by the new council of Tirisfal reformed by Jaina, Aegwynn and Meryl.

I'm pretty sure Med'an wasn't empowered like all the other Guardians were. Wasn't it just for the duration of the fight? And all the others had to keep the connection so little green fukface can beat Cho'Gall?

[Captain Douchebag]

Please don't shoot me but didn't Thrall technically became the Guardian of Tirisfal during Cata?

He momentarily took the role of aspect of earth so he could pewpew Deathwing, but he was never guardian.

[Ealyssa]

I'm pretty sure Med'an wasn't empowered like all the other Guardians were. Wasn't it just for the duration of the fight? And all the others had to keep the connection so little green fukface can beat Cho'Gall?

That was when Theramore was attacked. Med'an wasn't prepared, council channeled directly their power into him but Ihe couldn't manage them and fainted.
The second time a proper ceremony was made and he successfuly was imbued with their power. But I think it is said somewhere that Med'an will have to give the powers back after the fight. That there would no longer be a permanent guardian, Medihv exemple showing the danger of it.

How can it be canon since we've never seen or heard of Me'dan in game

Because blizzard said so ? It's not up to you to decide what is canon and what is not.

[turboether]

Please don't shoot me but didn't Thrall technically became the Guardian of Tirisfal during Cata?

He became a surrogate Earth Warder, temporarily.

[Wildmoon]

There are two ways for Khadgar to become guardian. He needs to have other mages pour their power into him or he needs Med'an to transfer his guardian's power to him. Alodi was the first guardian so he used the first mean. The rest of the guardians after Alodi recieved their guardian's power from their predecessors. Med'an needed to use the first mean because Medivh died before he passes his power to someone.

[steelballfc]

He is not the Guardian. Other Mages haven't poured their abilities into him.

I suspect he will try to convince them that he should become the next Guardian, or that we clearly need one and well... he's the most obvious candidate.

Khadgar is basically Medivh already, flying around as a Bird rallying everyone. If you compare the scenes where Medivh speaks to Terenas and the scene where Khadgar speaks to Varian they are basically identical.

Although we don't really need a Guardian anymore. Because us the Players already fulfill the same purpose.

Exactly, also Khadgar becoming the Guarding running the whole "last guardian" and the world "doesn't need a guardian"

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Would be funny if it happened only to enforce how Blizzard, unlike all they claim, are trying VERY hard now to make Med'an (aka the thing) vanish.

he will not vanish
as long as we remember him

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There are two ways for Khadgar to become guardian. He needs to have other mages pour their power into him or he needs Med'an to transfer his guardian's power to him. Alodi was the first guardian so he used the first mean. The rest of the guardians after Alodi recieved their guardian's power from their predecessors. Med'an needed to use the first mean because Medivh died before he passes his power to someone.

too much mage power in one post
all Khadgar need is to steal the Mana tree near Nightwell

[WolfRider]

How does Me'dan can be Canon in Warcraft?
He's not in the game and nobody talks about him (not even a kobold).
He lives adventures involving game's characters and locations, but his actions don't interact with the game lore.

Med'an is like these mythomaniac kids, who think they've done things and met some important peoples but nobody have ever heard of them.

But whatever, so basically :
- there's no Guardian anymore (with a permanent status/powers).
- Med'an has a sidestory, a canon placeholder for the guardian role since he has not appeared in the game yet.
- Kadghar is a powerful mage of Kirin'Tor that will never be the Guardian

[Enthralled]

Because blizzard said so ? It's not up to you to decide what is canon and what is not.

Mickey Niellson said so in a tweet. He's gone now. Metzen once indicated in an interview that The Thing wasn't the best idea they'd ever had.

It may be canon, but hopefully it will stay in whatever stasis it's in forever.