Its Great To See Youtube Finally Put Their Foot Down!

[Puremallace]

No sense of irony there, considering that free listening of full length albums (with no artist compensation) is part of the reason Youtube became so popular in the first place.

Go tell that to the corporate guys running Youtube. All they are going to do is kill what made them popular in the first place and give their competition room to grow.

[Bollocks]

Go tell that to the corporate guys running Youtube. All they are going to do is kill what made them popular in the first place and give their competition room to grow.

HAH as if, youtube has grown to big to let something like that happen, and many content creators have become to dependent to depart ways from youtube.

[Jotaux]

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I assume Forbes has taken action against their ad network.Also if I recall properly Forbes has a section to report ads, I think mmo-c has someone as well.

Doesn't matter, no one is held responsible for the damage already done to your machine. When Forbes or mmo-champ is legally required to pay for my computer to be fixed I will disable ad block.

[Celista]

I believe using adblock makes you a thief (a scumbag at a minimum) as well because your browser isnt displaying those ads which means the website isnt making money from you. IF everyone used adblock, the internet would likely either go away ot you would have to pay a monthly subscription to every site

Keep fighting the good fight, Orlong. True Americans™ know that not paying for online content = socialism, possibly even communism.

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They can do all that, sure. But then another site will be born which will make it possible to still do all those things and YouTube will simply die off.

[LilSaihah]

Go tell that to the corporate guys running Youtube. All they are going to do is kill what made them popular in the first place and give their competition room to grow.

I'm really confused. How does punishing content theft and piracy destroy Youtube?

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I'm really confused. How does punishing content theft and piracy destroy Youtube?

Because that's the reason why a lot of people use YouTube? I personally can't wait for the next big site to pop up! YouTube is getting kind of boring lately with its monopoly.

[PACOX]

I hate they break youtube -> mp3 so I can have an excuse to go to Soundcloud.

[Ravenblade]

Its cached, not downloaded

"It's blue, not coloured."

A stream requires to be cached, or buffered as we computer people like to call it, in order to allow compensating for jitter. A stream per se is a real-time download of data. Youtube data happen to be unencrypted due to being free of DRM. A Youtube stream can be downloaded via normal HTTP(S) interface, no matter how clever they try to be a simple sniffer tool would demolish their efforts. As long as this possible Youtube's feet are going to be very small. They might up their efforts to allow videos only to be downloaded via a specific API and might additionally try applying some DRM (cue in opening another few cans of worms) but they would shoot themselves in their own little feet here because it would make Youtube a lot more cumbersome to use.

[Thage]

Also do people still fool themselves with this lie. Using adblock has no negative effect, so there is literally no reason to stop using it.

Even if I was mistaken about ad clickthrough, my experience is still vastly superior without the intrusive and risky ads I mentioned, with which even MMO-Champion and WoWhead are rife. I will take any necessary steps to ensure my system's safety and improve my browsing experience to the standard I was accustomed to before intrusive ads became all the rage, and no, I don't feel bad about doing so. The onus is on the ad providers to convince me my system is no longer at risk and my experience will not be damaged by loud, flashy ads or popups that cover up whatever it was I was reading.

[Orlong]

"It's blue, not coloured."

A stream requires to be cached, or buffered as we computer people like to call it, in order to allow compensating for jitter. A stream per se is a real-time download of data. Youtube data happen to be unencrypted due to being free of DRM. A Youtube stream can be downloaded via normal HTTP(S) interface, no matter how clever they try to be a simple sniffer tool would demolish their efforts. As long as this possible Youtube's feet are going to be very small. They might up their efforts to allow videos only to be downloaded via a specific API and might additionally try applying some DRM (cue in opening another few cans of worms) but they would shoot themselves in their own little feet here because it would make Youtube a lot more cumbersome to use.

It wouldnt be any more cumbersome at all to the people who are using it the way its intended to be used (search for a video, click on it, and watch it. Worst case scenario, they would be required to register and sign in to use Youtube

[Yunru]

I mostly just download music from youtube with the youtube to mp3 program. And you can get a video pretty easy just by opening a conzole and download it manualy if you want. There is pretty much no need for a 3th party programs, they only save time.

[caervek]

This changes absolutely nothing. It's a similar situation to torrent sites, you take one down, it gains publicity, 10 more appear.

It's actually very different, youtube ripping sites need much more server power/storage, etc because unlike a torrent site that just houses an index of magnets or whatever they require processing power, bandwidth and storage to stream a youtube video and convert it to .MP3/.MP4 and then store it for the user to download.

[Poopymonster]

Mmmh I've used YTtoMP3 a few times for very hard to find songs (quality is "meh", but at least it's something). But I've never downloaded a YT video. Like, what would you download? 0.o

Via Realplayer's downloader, I download Bruva Alfabusas's "If the Emperor had a Text to Speech device" set in Warhammer 40K.

Slap them on my tablet, when I'm bored and need some giggles, I'll watch an early ep or two. If I got an hour to kill, watch 2 or 3 of the newer ones. Still funny even rewatching it.

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being a pirate is a-okay.... according to youtube

I had this as my ringtone for a year or so. Except it was in Icelandic. Sounds awesome in Icelandic.

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Keep fighting the good fight, Orlong. True Americans™ know that not paying for online content = socialism, possibly even communism.

Those are the same. Duh.
Bro, do you even Freedom?

[Panzerboy]

Finally Youtube is going after pirates. Its starting with attacking Tubeninja. Hopefully they get shutdown along with youtube to mp3, Youtube Downloader and all the others. Hopefully the sue all the people that run those sites for every penny they have. Im so sick and tired of pirates.

https://consumerist.com/2016/05/31/y...wnload-videos/

Your post sounds like a paid for advertisement.

[Deleted]

Anything that can watch Youtube, downloads it, including all browsers. So, it is impossible to ever prevent people downloading it if they want.

Also, there are dedicated and open source tools (therefore no malware) so sophisticated and general that they are effectively browsers specifically for downloading, e.g. "Youtube-dl", which can download, extract and format to anything else and not just from Youtube ...

[Tziva]

I certainly hope they're solving the DMCA false claim outbreak. It's effected nearly every channel I watch! There's nothing fun about every other week your channel has to wrestle with legal BS.

Unfortunately, they'll still have to go through the usual dispute process but the difference now will be that now their earnings aren't lost during those few days. The way it works now is that their monetization on the video gets disabled until the claim is settled. This is a huuuuuge deal since people tend to claim videos when they are new, getting the most views, and therefore earning the best revenue. It can be a big financial loss for channels and a major headache because half the time it is probably done by someone who just wants to grief their channel by depriving them of earnings (the rest of the time it's fake third party entitles that blanket claims in hopes some won't get disputed and they can skim some revenue from a bunch of channels until YouTube shuts them down).

The only change currently happening/has happened is how money is handled during a DMCA people can still DMCA without consequence.

The monetization is the important part for a lot of creators, and it's an awesome change. The fact they losing their earnings during the dispute process has easily been the worst part of the whole system for a long time.

That said, it's incorrect that there's no consequence. People who file intentionally false or abusive claims can have their accounts terminated. The issue is just that often the people who are set on doing it just make new ones. I'm honestly not really sure what YouTube can do on that front. I definitely agree there is too many third parties making bullshit claims to try to take advantage of people who don't appeal and too many ragey internet trolls who use it to harass creators. I agree it's frustrating that the system doesn't have some elegant solution but... I don't know what it would be. I can only critique something so much if I can't offer an alternative idea that would function better.

I guess there's also the hope that maybe the people/bogus companies who use fraudulent claims to harass or skim money from channels will be less inclined to do it when the revenue will ultimately go to the creators once resolved, but that's probably wishful thinking. I'm a little cynical that that will be a deterrent of any kind.

But anyway, it's not live yet. They put up a blog I think about it not too long ago, so I think it should be rolled out fairly soon.

[Annoying]

So who's more a scumbag? Using ad-block or a site that up loads ransomware, malware, and obnoxious pop ups (looking at you wowhead)

Note that the site only chooses which network serves ads on it, and the ad network is the one that's serving those things up, not the site.

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Note that the site only chooses which network serves ads on it, and the ad network is the one that's serving those things up, not the site.

It doesn't matter. Risks to, scummy and dangerous ad networks will always exist.

The site chooses the advertising model and selects the networks. Therefore, the security and reputational risk is always all on the site from an end-user's perspective.

In fact, the very tool that helps both the end user and the site, by making it appear as safe as any other, is ad/malware blocking! So, you cannot have it both ways.

This is something of which MMO-Champion has repeatedly had first hand experience and no doubt suffered the consequences...

[Jotaux]

Note that the site only chooses which network serves ads on it, and the ad network is the one that's serving those things up, not the site.

I hold the website just as responsible. It's their choice to go with an ad network that could hurt the computers of their users.