WoW is truely the last bastion of the former juggernaut that used to be sub-based games. Microtransactions and in-store purchases in a "free to play" environment is the new normal development plan
I didn't pick a poll answer because you left out (as most people with polls do) the "outsider option" --- you know the option that doesn't agree with any of the other poll choices which in this case should be "Blizzard won't charge a sub for Diablo 3 so what's your point?"
What is this I don't even... my brain. Wha...why... why is this a thing? Send help.
First time I've seen a MMO-C poll with over 90% saying one way. Does D3 have more concurrent than WoW right now? If not the questions already answered since it's free atm
seeing how the game is almost as bad and dead as the wow movie, the moment they start charging for diablo, they better start giving away all their other games for free
Diablo 3 CANNOT be completed, infinite Rift Levels are kinda the thing that says: You CAN play forever.
If you got decent gear, the loot hunt is lost because upgrades are really rare... so you can climb the ladder which is dominated by streamers because they get paid to play. So you don't have a chance of getting anywhere near the top.
So what's left? Doing the Challenge for cosmetics which can be done in 2 weeks. So yes Diablo has so little content that they depend on the seasons otherwise there would be like 50k players left, if they even have that many.
Honest to god this site needs to start perm banning people like you who spam this site with absolutely stupid bullshit. RNG has been a part of rpgs for as long as there have been rpgs. Give it a fucking rest already.
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Blizzard has been around longer than most of you people have been alive and guess what? Blizzard was a profitable company before Wow and will continue to be a profitable company AFTER Wow. They didnt get to where they are by not thinking ahead. Not doing what you want doesn't mean they don't have a plan.
In short: get the fuck over yourself.
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Because RNG totally isn't involved in games not Wow or D3. What the fuck ever.
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Are you fucking kidding me right now? This is a blatant troll thread. Seriously? Not to mention the fact its off topic for the forum it is posted in. Perhaps instead of posting nonsense in threads you mods could actually start shutting down this kind of shit but then again you lose all that clickbait advertising money.
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And yet there are other subscription mmos and other types of games. We have subscriptions for streaming sites now and even subscriptions to delivery of physical products through companies like Amazon. Subscriptions aren't going anywhere. Period. End of story.
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For some people gearing up is content. Might not be "your" content but for an mmo its content all the same.
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It doesn't get regular content updates like mmos do because guess what? D3 isn't an mmo. It has nothing to do with number of people playing.
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So we never had RNG in Wow before Wod? Really? Have you even played Wow? Like ever?
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Your issue is you think everyone that plays Wow is like you. In fact this is the issue of most of the pompous assholes like you on this site who think any of you can speak for others.
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Do I really need to dredge up all the threads not only from this site but the official forums of people complaining about RNG many years before D3 even came out? RNG in Wow doesn't make Wow like D3. It makes it an rpg with rpg type elements that other rpg type games share.
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Don't think I have ever seen a D3 patch that simply starts a new season called a "major" patch like ever. At all. Kind of like how Blizzard never called 6.1 a major patch yet all of you idiots claim otherwise.
I'm not sure if you realize this, but Blizzard uses metrics to make business decisions. Things like RNG loot, RNG legendaries, and shared Tmog are things that have proved successful in Diablo 3. Based on D3 Metrics, Blizzard has decided to shift some of the problematic systems in Wow to the D3 design in hopes of improving success.
They won't add a sub fee to D3 because it's an action RPG game and the genre has never had a sub fee (afaik). Seeing as how D3 is an always online DRM protected game (unlike most other ARPGs), they would be much more likely to add an offline mode and move the online portion to the client side, in the even that server costs were too great to continue without a sub fee.
And Wow is already poised to go without a sub fee, it's dropped so many subs I give it maybe 6 months after Legion before they announce they're dropping the sub fee. The only thing holding them back at this point is the potential for an expansion to ramp up the subscriber numbers to a point where going F2P is suicide. That, and the perception going F2P creates in the MMO industry. It's usually a sign of an MMO being DoA compared to the projected numbers they hoped for when they decided on their payment model.
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No but neither would Overwatch, League of Legends, Hearthstone or DotA 2. Hell if WoW was released today without the global omnipresence it now enjoys it wouldn't have a tenth WoW has now. If your metric is whether or not an idea is a good one to borrow from another game is whether or not the game as a whole would function as a sub model game, you'll end up borrowing no features. Subscription models are well and truly awful, and it's only a matter of time until even WoW retires it's sub model.
What you're effectively doing is saying that taking components off something is valueless unless it's better at being what your current project than your current project. And that's ridiculous, because that's not how things work, if I design a new type of tire for bus usage you shouldn't ignore it's applicability for airplanes just because buses are really awful at flying.
A better question is whether or not you think that either Diablo 3 is a better game than WoW or if you think that those things make for a better game. And for me I do think that Diablo 3 is a better game than WoW (not really hard as I'd rate WoW very lowly right now) and I have mixed feelings towards the changes. I've always hated RNG in raid loot because ultimately I'm not a loot focused player, but random legendarys are something I'm cautiously optimistic about. And while I don't like a lot of the selected pruned abilities I acknowledge it's a necessary evil, WoW classes are entirely too bloated and my opinions on legion classes so far are generally positive.
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I think Diablo 3 is already losing players since lack of content, so subscription fee every month would lead to a big amount of players leaving the game.
I wouldn't mind paying a monthly fee to play diablo. That would mean we would get a lot new content on a regular basis. Last patch in diablo was horrible. Just some frikking wings and nothing new. Tiny changes to the class meta and thats it. And i have no hope for the next patch to be anything different either.
We need new sets, new features and most of all. A new class.