EU Turket deal illegal according to Amnesty International

[W1sp]

https://www.amnesty.org/en/press-rel...urkey-illegal/


Summary: The EU must immediately stop the return of refugees to Turkey according to Amnest international in their new report. The deal between the EU and Turkey is apparently build upon the false claim that it is a safe country for refugees.

A large part of the complaint is that refugees are forced to work to get a home and dont just get them for free from the tax payers.

What do you guys think about Turkey as a non safe zone? I didnt know there was a war there except for the skirmishes with the PKK?

Thoughts? Ideas? Solutions?

[lonely zergling]

It is a safe country. Amnesty International being Amnesty International more news at 11.

[Paklaaji]

Fuck them.

And fuck these migrants who are leaving unironically ''safe spaces'' provided by Lebanon, Turkey and others in the region.
It`s pretty amusing how they are ready to take a journey of more than 1000 km`s just to get to The Welfare Republic of Deutschistan and Sverigstan.

My little shithole which agreed to take few hundreds of them last year is still struggling to find families - no single men policy - that will want to live here. You know, we can`t give them money to buy PS4 or offer services like public swimming pools for free.

[Kuntantee]

It is less safer than it previously was, but not a warzone (safe for few cities).

[Deleted]

Trying to emotionally sway by putting pictures like this in an "official" report, lol.

[Lucky Fable]

Why don't the millions of immigrants not simply take up arms and reclaim their home land?

They surely can't be outnumbered.

[Sunseeker]

Turkey isn't a safe place. Europe shouldn't be dealing with them, and Turkey has no business being a member of the EU. But the EU is making bad decisions because they're desperate to solve the refugee problem without actually getting involved in the middle east conflicts.

[Slant]

https://www.amnesty.org/en/press-rel...urkey-illegal/


Summary: The EU must immediately stop the return of refugees to Turkey according to Amnest international in their new report. The deal between the EU and Turkey is apparently build upon the false claim that it is a safe country for refugees.

A large part of the complaint is that refugees are forced to work to get a home and dont just get them for free from the tax payers.

What do you guys think about Turkey as a non safe zone? I didnt know there was a war there except for the skirmishes with the PKK?

Thoughts? Ideas? Solutions?

Nobody gives a shit what Amnesty International thinks. I'm not about to begin now.

[Deleted]

https://www.amnesty.org/en/press-rel...urkey-illegal/


Summary: The EU must immediately stop the return of refugees to Turkey according to Amnest international in their new report. The deal between the EU and Turkey is apparently build upon the false claim that it is a safe country for refugees.

A large part of the complaint is that refugees are forced to work to get a home and dont just get them for free from the tax payers.

What do you guys think about Turkey as a non safe zone? I didnt know there was a war there except for the skirmishes with the PKK?

Thoughts? Ideas? Solutions?

omg.. god forbid they are made to actual earn a living and not just be handed everything on a platter. They speak the same language so being made to work isnt exactly the end of the world

[ati87]

Turkey isn't a safe place. Europe shouldn't be dealing with them, and Turkey has no business being a member of the EU. But the EU is making bad decisions because they're desperate to solve the refugee problem without actually getting involved in the middle east conflicts.

So your suggesting that what?

Europe sends everybody back?

If you think that just dumping them on Turkey is going to work and is something Turkey would accept then I'm grateful our German overlords are much smarter then the average person.

[May90]

Turkey is definitely a poor place for refugees; Turkey can't even provide its own citizens with decent quality of life, let alone those it couldn't care less about. That said, calling it "illegal" seems like overly far-fetched; are there international laws that prohibit relocating refugees between countries, as long as their life isn't threatened?

[Deleted]

Turkey is definitely a poor place for refugees; Turkey can't even provide its own citizens with decent quality of life, let alone those it couldn't care less about. That said, calling it "illegal" seems like overly far-fetched; are there international laws that prohibit relocating refugees between countries, as long as their life isn't threatened?

the people being "moved" arent under refugee status. they are under asylum applications. Rules are different. Asylum law is "the next safe nation" so passing through 4,5 or 6 safe countries to get to Germany/sweden/w.e makes you look like a general migrant

[May90]

the people being "moved" arent under refugee status. they are under asylum applications. Rules are different. Asylum law is "the next safe nation" so passing through 4,5 or 6 safe countries to get to Germany/sweden/w.e makes you look like a general migrant

Yes, but if someone has already passed through them, uncaught - can they be moved back to the first safe nation? I've always thought they could, so the claim of it being "illegal" in this case doesn't seem to be true.

[Deleted]

Yes, but if someone has already passed through them, uncaught - can they be moved back to the first safe nation? I've always thought they could, so the claim of it being "illegal" in this case doesn't seem to be true.

in a way yes. if they pass through other safe contries to get to a "preferred" country, they are really just standard migrants who you don't have to actually let in. EU dublin agreement means they can be moved between EU nations this way. the Turkey thing is a "special" deal.

[ranzino]

Yup, you can deny such wandering refugees landfall in Germany. But you have to take them in for the time being their application is filed and denied.

[Sunseeker]

So your suggesting that what?

Europe sends everybody back?

If you think that just dumping them on Turkey is going to work and is something Turkey would accept then I'm grateful our German overlords are much smarter then the average person.

Yes, Europe ships them back to whatever non-EU country was the last one they entered. I don't really care what Turkey thinks. It's just another middle eastern Islamist dictatorship or it will be given Erdogan's tendencies and a few more years.

[Deleted]

Trying to emotionally sway by putting pictures like this in an "official" report, lol.

Emotionally sway? He looks like he is out of breath from running. QUICKLY, COME TO MY COUNTRY!

[Hooked]

Well that's it then, cant send them away now.

[ati87]

Yes, Europe ships them back to whatever non-EU country was the last one they entered. I don't really care what Turkey thinks. It's just another middle eastern Islamist dictatorship or it will be given Erdogan's tendencies and a few more years.

Yeah....and turkey will / could just say fuck because they aren't our citizens and we have no legal obligation to take them back.


So then Europe has to do what then? Just forcefully drop them off in Turkish land or water? That would be a act of war because Turkish government wouldn't authorize that.

And now you just entered a military conflict with your own ally (since Turkey is a ally nation for most of European nations) because your lack of understanding something simple is limited to ''they are muslims so we hate them'' argument.

[Azadina]

Yeah....and turkey will / could just say fuck because they aren't our citizens and we have no legal obligation to take them back.


So then Europe has to do what then? Just forcefully drop them off in Turkish land or water? That would be a act of war because Turkish government wouldn't authorize that.

And now you just entered a military conflict with your own ally (since Turkey is a ally nation for most of European nations) because your lack of understanding something simple is limited to ''they are muslims so we hate them'' argument.

Turkeys blackmailing of EU has already been an act of war.