What Do we Know ?

[FelPlague]

ok think about it this way
as a solider in an army you will not be accepted unless you are full grown up adult to join their ranks.
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on side note I was searching and 12 years old is growing up orc

that only applies to real world, in wow who knows you could be a adult at 12, also how do you know you arnt like 1 day old and was magically aged like garona?

[Friendlyimmolation]

that only applies to real world, in wow who knows you could be a adult at 12, also how do you know you arnt like 1 day old and was magically aged like garona?

Because that isnt allowed in the new Horde.

[FelPlague]

Because that isnt allowed in the new Horde.

how do you know! voljin seems like he would be too high to bother enforcing child labor laws

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This is more of a RP related Question. But yes, you have to be mindful (if you actually want to RP), what your character has actually done and what he/she actually knows about. If he/she isn't a nightelf, he/she probably doesn't care that much about the War of the Ancients for example. Or why the Horde had to invade Azeroth.
Some might - most probably wont even care enough about it.
Same with history. Just think about how many people in the world (the real one that is) actually care about History. It is save to say, that about that many would care about history in the World of Warcraft (not that many).
And depending on your class/role you play, you can also assume some .. biases or opinions that the character actually cares more about than to learn something about the world he/she is in.
Warcraft is a world of suffering and hardship. So most people wont even be that educated.

TL;DR: This is in essence a RP Question. Most characters are fairly stupid and probably don't really care that much about history. Long lived races may pose an exeption of that rule.

[FelPlague]

This is more of a RP related Question. But yes, you have to be mindful (if you actually want to RP), what your character has actually done and what he/she actually knows about. If he/she isn't a nightelf, he/she probably doesn't care that much about the War of the Ancients for example. Or why the Horde had to invade Azeroth.
Some might - most probably wont even care enough about it.
Same with history. Just think about how many people in the world (the real one that is) actually care about History. It is save to say, that about that many would care about history in the World of Warcraft (not that many).
And depending on your class/role you play, you can also assume some .. biases or opinions that the character actually cares more about than to learn something about the world he/she is in.
Warcraft is a world of suffering and hardship. So most people wont even be that educated.

TL;DR: This is in essence a RP Question. Most characters are fairly stupid and probably don't really care that much about history. Long lived races may pose an exeption of that rule.

If he/she isn't a nightelf, he/she probably doesn't care that much about the War of the Ancients for example.

Tauren, Night elves, Blood elves, High elves, all were part of the war.

[steelballfc]

that only applies to real world, in wow who knows you could be a adult at 12, also how do you know you arnt like 1 day old and was magically aged like garona?

fair enough, think about it this way then
- as Spell-caster "mage" you need to learn in schools in dalaran to be recognize as one also lore wise the Warlocks are former mages or "adults" who can understand the Fel-magic
- as Shaman you need years of training to communicate with the elements , same goes for Druid to communicate with Nature.
- as Rogue you need to be accepted to the league of Shadows "horde", or the league of Assassin "Alliance"
- as Warriors - Paladin you need to be full grown up to weald a weapon, same goes to DK and DH
- as Priest you either need to Fully aware of the light in Church " Alliance", of join the Cult of forgotten shadows " forsaken", or become Sunweaver/blood knight who are former Warriors " mostly".

[Friendlyimmolation]

how do you know! voljin seems like he would be too high to bother enforcing child labor laws

Children's day is a thing in the Horde.

[FelPlague]

fair enough, think about it this way then
- as Spell-caster "mage" you need to learn in schools in dalaran to be recognize as one also lore wise the Warlocks are former mages or "adults" who can understand the Fel-magic
- as Shaman you need years of training to communicate with the elements , same goes for Druid to communicate with Nature.
- as Rogue you need to be accepted to the league of Shadows "horde", or the league of Assassin "Alliance"
- as Warriors - Paladin you need to be full grown up to weald a weapon, same goes to DK and DH
- as Priest you either need to Fully aware of the light in Church " Alliance", of join the Cult of forgotten shadows " forsaken", or become Sunweaver/blood knight who are former Warriors " mostly".

mages dont allways go to dalaran to be so

Orc warlocks were shamans, where others were mages

both could be trained from quite younge, malfurion started early early on
to just be a rogue... no you dont really >_> just need to be a theif...
arthas was in his late teens when he became a "honorary paladin"
Anduin was 10 when he became a priest

[steelballfc]

If he/she isn't a nightelf, he/she probably doesn't care that much about the War of the Ancients for example.

Tauren, Night elves, Blood elves, High elves, all were part of the war.

Tauren doesn't live that long, and they don't Write documented history.

[FelPlague]

Children's day is a thing in the Horde.

yeah, sending children into dangerous raids and pvp battlegrounds! forcing them to run along side people on their mounts

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Tauren doesn't live that long, and they don't Write documented history.

guess you havent played/read legion highmountain ;3

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If he/she isn't a nightelf, he/she probably doesn't care that much about the War of the Ancients for example.

Tauren, Night elves, Blood elves, High elves, all were part of the war.

Jesus Christ, do I have to list everything for an example?

Not to mention High-/Bloodelves were all Nightelves back then. Tauren aren't that long lived.

But sure. Nitpick away.

[steelballfc]

mages dont allways go to dalaran to be so

Orc warlocks were shamans, where others were mages

both could be trained from quite younge, malfurion started early early on
to just be a rogue... no you dont really >_> just need to be a theif...
arthas was in his late teens when he became a "honorary paladin"
Anduin was 10 when he became a priest

- Antonidas, mentioned before he dies (in-game book) that his own student was studying the Fel-magic and becoming more and more warlocks than mages, and he forbidden any mage In Dalaran to study the Fel-magic, also necromancy.
- most mages had to go to Dalaran, and even if you didn't study in dalaran to become a mage " like Horde mages" you needed to be accepted in Dalaran city in WOTLK.
- Anduin is one Case of hero not all Priest can Achieve what he become in early age.
- Warlock can come from any back-ground, but most Warlocks were mages.

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Jesus Christ, do I have to list everything for an example?

Not to mention High-/Bloodelves were all Nightelves back then. Tauren aren't that long lived.

But sure. Nitpick away.

and no one in the main char of High-/Bloodelves remember the War of the Ancient, which suggest that all High-/Bloodelves who were alive back then died.

[FelPlague]

Jesus Christ, do I have to list everything for an example?

Not to mention High-/Bloodelves were all Nightelves back then. Tauren aren't that long lived.

But sure. Nitpick away.

read up on highmountain

[steelballfc]

guess you havent played/read legion highmountain ;3

no I didn't
but the Horde Tauren doesn't have Written data

[FelPlague]

- Antonidas, mentioned before he dies (in-game book) that his own student was studying the Fel-magic and becoming more and more warlocks than mages, and he forbidden any mage In Dalaran to study the Fel-magic, also necromancy.
- most mages had to go to Dalaran, and even if you didn't study in dalaran to become a mage " like Horde mages" you needed to be accepted in Dalaran city in WOTLK.
- Anduin is one Case of hero not all Priest can Achieve what he become in early age.
- Warlock can come from any back-ground, but most Warlocks were mages.

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and no one in the main char of High-/Bloodelves remember the War of the Ancient, which suggest that all High-/Bloodelves who were alive back then died.

yeah... as i said orc shamans became warlocks, but for the other races it was mages, but also not all mages whent to dalaran

also no the first warlocks and most warlocks were from shamans, as allmost all shamans on draenor changed to locks

and velen also became a priest early in his life

[Deleted]

read up on highmountain

I am still waiting for your point. I was talking to the OP and you started to nitpick. Nobody cares about highmountain right now. The question was:
"What do the characters know vs. what we know?"

I brought up some examples. And no, not every Tauren has/had access to some highmountain script or whatever. If they don't really care about the History they wont read up on it.
Like I said - most people don't care. They would care even less if they lived in a world like Azeroth where you can literally be cooked by some oversized dragon any day.

This is a RP Question. Try to understand RP before you lecture me about lore. Because the two are related but not the same.

[steelballfc]

yeah... as i said orc shamans became warlocks, but for the other races it was mages, but also not all mages whent to dalaran

also no the first warlocks and most warlocks were from shamans, as allmost all shamans on draenor changed to locks

and velen also became a priest early in his life

Early Age for Dreane is like 1000 years old or something
Velen is the most aged Mortal Char in WoW.

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I am still waiting for your point. I was talking to the OP and you started to nitpick. Nobody cares about highmountain right now. The question was:
"What do the characters know vs. what we know?"

I brought up some examples. And no, not every Tauren has/had access to some highmountain script or whatever. If they don't really care about the History they wont read up on it.
Like I said - most people don't care. They would care even less if they lived in a world like Azeroth where you can literally be cooked by some oversized dragon any day.

This is a RP Question. Try to understand RP before you lecture me about lore. Because the two are related but not the same.

maybe I should add this question to RP forums

[Oakshana]

Jesus Henry Christ. There is a lot of unwarranted bickering going on in this thread. And whether some of you mean it or not, some of your replies come off argumentative, and even abrasive. Maybe dial back a little bit of the ego. It's just a conversation. Someone asked a question and you can either share your personal opinion on the matter, or move on. Posting like a bull in a china shop just makes you look arrogant.

And someone posting their personal opinion doesn't make them wrong because they don't see eye to eye with you. They may have some incorrect info, or are misguided... but you don't need to get preachy.

[Aquamonkey]

also no the first warlocks and most warlocks were from shamans, as allmost all shamans on draenor changed to locks

The first warlocks were eredar, who started off as sorcerers. The majority of their race turned. Orc shaman didn't number very high, they were a small caste within orc society. And orcs sucked at being warlocks.

Born of the Eredar race, warlocks are absolutely corrupt and unimaginably powerful. Their chaos magics have burnt out whole worlds and annihilated countless species over the aeons. Kil'jaeden taught the orcs the secrets of warlock magics, but the orcs could never master the powers of entropy and destruction as well as the wicked Eredar. Under Archimonde's command, the warlocks serve as the Legion's tacticians and strategists.
--WC3 Manual

[steelballfc]

The first warlocks were eredar, who started off as sorcerers. The majority of their race turned. Orc shaman didn't number very high, they were a small caste within orc society. And orcs sucked at being warlocks.

Born of the Eredar race, warlocks are absolutely corrupt and unimaginably powerful. Their chaos magics have burnt out whole worlds and annihilated countless species over the aeons. Kil'jaeden taught the orcs the secrets of warlock magics, but the orcs could never master the powers of entropy and destruction as well as the wicked Eredar. Under Archimonde's command, the warlocks serve as the Legion's tacticians and strategists.
--WC3 Manual

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