Why do you hate Hillary Clinton?

[Uoyredrum]

She's a war hawk. She's friends with henry kissinger. She has bad judgement, supports TPP, and takes money from special interests who will undoubtedly influence her decisions in office (as they have in the past despite her claims to the contrary). She's a liar who says things just to get support. I could go on, but we all have google, so I'll leave it at that.

[Deleted]

Unqualified, and is dangerous to herself, and the people around her

[Pangean]

Again, you're not offering any counterpoints as to why my argument was stupid, you simply keep playing the fallacy game.

My argument was poorly worded and indeed, created a fallacy, but the baseline argument is there.

"Trump may be a candidate, but prove Hilary won't be worse"

That's a valid question.

Show how Hilary will be a better candidate than trump.

Is this what your social science degree taught you?

Why do I need to so when you just admitted what you did? And are continuing to do. It's your job in that argument to show how she will be worse. Not demanding someone, somehow prove she won't be. So your baseline argument is a variation of your theme of proving a negative and is not a valid question.

Now asking the person to show that Hillary is a better candidate than Trump is a valid question. But that is not what you did originally nor asked. But I am so glad to help you correct your silliness. Thus endth the lesson.

[Veldoranz]

Well, I probably could give about thirty reasons of the top off my head, but for the sake of time I will say this:

Hillary Clinton is all about standing up for rape victims until it comes to the dozens of women that Bill has raped/assaulted. Once it gets to that point she couldn't give two fucks about women.

[Felya]

The GOP is being funded by oil companies... (under various names and Super PAC's), Trump not being funded by them directly (which you cannot really tell because the money is funneled through PAC's) is irrelevant when he is giving the oil, coal, and gas companies everything they have been asking for.

To add to this. Here is Trump saying 'bomb the shit out of them... Give their oil to Exxon, they are great people':

https://youtu.be/aWejiXvd-P8

I know, Trump's own YouTube site is liberal media at it again. But, good luck finding Hilary saying anything remotely similar. He quite literally, lobby or not, wants to use tax payer dollars to give Exxon oil fields.

[Sickjen]

I voted Bernie
At the same time i will never vote Hillary even if that means voting trump. At least you can kind of understand the guy. I can't relate to Hillary at all.

I was still fairly upset he lost in my home state RIP BERNIE 2K16

[Grogo]

The main thing I got out of this thread? People listen to the rhetoric they want and ignore facts. They embellish and over dramatize. They are vague in their reasoning. They are petty and small. They judge people for their actions and judge themselves by their own intentions. People are haters.

[Reeve]

1.) She’s a liar. Not just in political terms, but a verified liar. Here are some of the noteworthy ones: Irish Peace Process, her vote in favor of the war in Iraq, her reasoning for using an illegal personal server for state business, she was “broke” when she left the white house despite Bill’s 200k / year salary, that she was under sniper fire in Bosnia, where Chelsea was on 9/11, and the attack on Benghazi was because of some video on youtube.

Thanks for giving specifics.

I'm not going to claim she doesn't lie. I will say the final bit about Benghazi was a very reasonable position to take on the subject. She said it was about the video the day after the video came out and while we were still in the middle of the incident with the fog of war everywhere. She did what she could with the information she had, which I wouldn't call lying. I'd call it getting it wrong.

I'll also say that I don't think she's a worse liar than Trump, who even lies about pretending to be someone else entirely.

2.) She was MIA when the call came in RE: Benghazi, then responded to congressional criticism with “At this point, what difference does it make”. It makes a big difference to the families of the 4 AMERICANS who lost their lives

This whole thing seems like a storm in a teacup to me. Whether it was an "act of terror" or a "terrrorist attack" and whether it was instigated as a result of that video or on its own, none of that seems to change the nature of the thing. A lot of statements were made under the fog of war in the middle of an emergency situation. You can claim that it was handled badly and that they should have avoided making statements until the incident was over and all the information known, but honestly it all seems like a mountain of a molehill to me.

3.) She defended a child rapist and laughed about it. Seriously… http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ctim-says.html

No, she didn't, as posted earlier in this thread: http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinto...ghed-about-it/

4.) Has accepted millions of dollars from foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation, and has yet to prove where that money has gone. This is from countries who are known sponsors of terrorism, and while she was still active as the Secretary of State. Conflict of interest…much?

When you run an international charitable foundation, this sort of thing happens.

5.) She’s been endorsed by Barack Hussein Obama. ‘Nuff said.

Right, because she IS Barack Obama, 2.0. A moderate centrist candidate.

6.) Sided with her husband against the countless number of women who accused him of sexual misbehavior, even referring to one of them as trailer trash. Women’s rights only seem to matter when it’s not women who’ve been raped by your husband, then you need to keep your filthy slut mouth shut.

Lewinski is the only one I'm really familiar with, but I'd rather not get involved in the marital lives of others.

7.) She’s not the champion of the middle class the claims to be. In her recent speech RE: wealth inequality, she was wearing a $12,500 Armani blazer… Seriously? She has a personal chef, Chelsea has gone to private schools, she owns a private jet, and makes over $200k for a speaking engagement. Sounds like middle class to me…

Yeah, she doesn't seem like much of a champion of the middle class to me, either, but what else is new?

[TwoNineMarine]

Not a fan of her policies in the slightest. But I am able to read people quite well I think and I've always not liked the look of her.

Plus I know at least five people who have interacted with her closely, generally as protection while they were police officers, who have heard her say just horrible things about the people, the police, secret service, etc.

If it was just one guy I could dismiss it. But it's been at least five and not a single one heard anything good come out of her mouth. Three of them voted for her husband back in the day.

I will never vote for someone I don't immediately trust.

[Stormspellz]

1.) She’s a liar. Not just in political terms, but a verified liar. Here are some of the noteworthy ones: Irish Peace Process, her vote in favor of the war in Iraq, her reasoning for using an illegal personal server for state business, she was “broke” when she left the white house despite Bill’s 200k / year salary, that she was under sniper fire in Bosnia, where Chelsea was on 9/11, and the attack on Benghazi was because of some video on youtube.

2.) She was MIA when the call came in RE: Benghazi, then responded to congressional criticism with “At this point, what difference does it make”. It makes a big difference to the families of the 4 AMERICANS who lost their lives

3.) She defended a child rapist and laughed about it. Seriously… http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ctim-says.html

4.) Has accepted millions of dollars from foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation, and has yet to prove where that money has gone. This is from countries who are known sponsors of terrorism, and while she was still active as the Secretary of State. Conflict of interest…much?

5.) She’s been endorsed by Barack Hussein Obama. ‘Nuff said.

6.) Sided with her husband against the countless number of women who accused him of sexual misbehavior, even referring to one of them as trailer trash. Women’s rights only seem to matter when it’s not women who’ve been raped by your husband, then you need to keep your filthy slut mouth shut.

7.) She’s not the champion of the middle class the claims to be. In her recent speech RE: wealth inequality, she was wearing a $12,500 Armani blazer… Seriously? She has a personal chef, Chelsea has gone to private schools, she owns a private jet, and makes over $200k for a speaking engagement. Sounds like middle class to me…

This is literally step by step GOP talking points that has been regurgitated ad nauseam, even after many of the things have be refuted or just lack common basic reasoning, like complaining about a rich women wearing designer clothing (which she prob got for free for the advertising) or criticizing the press breafing talking points that was more or less approved by from the cia/intelligence departments

[Reeve]

Hillary says that all rape victims should be believed. But then doesn't think any of her husbands victims are believable.

And why is everyone blasting Trump? Saying why you dislike Trump is not the topic of why you dislike hillary. Talking about someone else is not a defense of hillary, you just show your bias.

The topic is about why you dislike Hillary so much that you'd be willing to let Trump win.

[Grogo]

I voted Bernie
At the same time i will never vote Hillary even if that means voting trump. At least you can kind of understand the guy. I can't relate to Hillary at all.

I was still fairly upset he lost in my home state RIP BERNIE 2K16

Well many understand he uses racism, dislikes minorities and wants to go back to the 60's which was a bad time for many minorities. Voting for Trump shows people a lot about you..the voter..this is black and white. Vote for Trump, that is your right but remember this, 5 years from now you will not admit to voting for him. I guarantee that.

[zEmini]

So this thread is about why people seem to dislike Clinton so much. Whenever I ask the question I see assertions about her being a corporate shill or being crooked or whatever, but people never seem to have anything to back up these pronouncements.

So for this thread, please indicate what you consider your political affiliation or place on the political spectrum, then explain why you dislike Hillary Clinton (especially if you dislike her enough to allow Trump to win), and please give specifics, examples of the reasons, not just vague assertions.

Brief generalization:

She is just another politician in a suit that has been bought and sold by the media and corporations. Obviously this has been the case for almost every politician for a century, but now most Americans are just getting fed up with it. I am personally sick of the lies coming out of her mouth and the flip flops on her positions on certain policies. She blows with the wind ... like most other politicians. This is why there is so much approval for Bernie and Trump (from the right). People are sick of it and desperate for change.

[Aori]

Policies aside, it is a gut feeling. Everything about her screams in my mind, turn around and run away.

[Kellhound]

She's the Democratic Party presumptive nominee for President, no other reason is needed to dislike her.

[Sickjen]

Well many understand he uses racism, dislikes minorities and wants to go back to the 60's which was a bad time for many minorities. Voting for Trump shows people a lot about you..the voter..this is black and white. Vote for Trump, that is your right but remember this, 5 years from now you will not admit to voting for him. I guarantee that.

I don't think that's true. I voted Obama both times and i was happy with my decision, I'm not going to feel bad voting for him either. Last night after sweeping yet another state he made his first attempt to scoop up the independent votes by agreeing with senator sanders policy's. That may seem like a small move but in reality. Many pro-Bernie people dislike Hillary because she's pretty much not genuine. I feel as trump has a very high chance to win.

Policies aside, it is a gut feeling. Everything about her screams in my mind, turn around and run away.

This x1000000000000

[Lumineus]

No its not, its completely against the constitution for starters

It's amazing how many people do not seem to understand the simple fact that the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens are not guaranteed to people who do not have U.S. citizenship.

[TexasRules]

The topic is about why you dislike Hillary so much that you'd be willing to let Trump win.

Misleading title. Still not answering why you have to bash someone else instead of promoting your candidate. Tell me why you need to defend hilary by bashing Trump instead of just telling why hillary should win?

And answer the damn question as to why she thinks all women should be believed unless they accused her husband?

[May90]

Why do people hate any politician, aside from having very strong objections against their policies or personalities? Well, because people love to have someone to hate - that makes them feel better, as they now think, "That person has achieved so much, and still I am better than them!".

Personally, I do not "hate" any candidates. I very strongly dislike Trump's personality and policies, I dislike Sanders' economical policies, and I dislike the fact that Clinton is an old part of the establishment and isn't going to carry out the needed reforms - but "hate"? That's the word I reserve for someone who has done something especially nasty, like, I don't know, has eaten 100 children with me watching and laughed.

[Damajin]

Policies aside, it is a gut feeling. Everything about her screams in my mind, turn around and run away.

Yeah, pretty much. She's a terror in a pantsuit.