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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I dunno, but it's weird blaming hillary for this because france started it.
    Well, see, this involves Libya, and Benghazi is in Libya, and the Republicans have used so much time, energy, and money trying to throw Hillary under a bus about Benghazi that there just HAS to be a connection!

    I mean otherwise it'd just be a pointless smear campaign, right?
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    Words to live by.

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    I find it sad how so many Americans are indifferent of this. People like that don't seem to be accountable to anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    Please if you don't have anything constructive to add to my thread / on topic, leave.
    Difficult to post something constructive in a thread that isnt remotely constructive to begin with. Sort of like trying to build a house on a foundation made of baked bricks of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfd View Post
    Difficult to post something constructive in a thread that isnt remotely constructive to begin with. Sort of like trying to build a house on a foundation made of baked bricks of shit.
    If you don't want to comment on the article linked please don't. I find it interesting how Hilary was the biggest stain, the biggest mistake in Obama's almost peaceful term.

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    We supported revolution in Libya. Fact. We supported revolution in Syria. Fact. We supported a coup in Ukraine. Fact. Yes those countries are responsible for themselves as well, but it doesn't mean we aren't culpable.

    The state of affairs in each case is objectively worse. Much worse. Why you'd support the 'foreign policy expertise' of anyone involved in making these decisions, let alone someone who promises to continue the same as president is beyond me. I think Kerry is a giant bonehead too for framing the current US and Russia relationship.

    I'm center left. Strongly Libertarian. Trump is a blowhard no doubt. Hillary plays chess with people's lives. It's not a good or moral thing we are doing as a nation abroad right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    I dunno, but it's weird blaming hillary for this because france started it.
    I am ignorant to that fact. How did France start it?


    She has taken $25,000,000 in "donations" though from countries that practice Sharia law. While at the same time stating that she supports women's right's. kek!!!
    Last edited by Allybeboba; 2016-06-16 at 01:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    I am ignorant to that fact. How did France start it?
    The first involvement the US had was resupplying france with missiles it decided to shoot. It wasn't the US actually shooting the missiles or choosing to essentially overthrow libya. It was france. Edit: to be clear we supported it, but we weren't the first foreign government involved.
    Last edited by Ripster42; 2016-06-16 at 01:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post


    Libya was Obama's biggest mistake.
    I guess I won't vote for Obama for a third term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    I am ignorant to that fact. How did France start it?


    She has taken $25,000,000 in "donations" though from countries that practice Sharia law. While at the same time stating that she supports women's right's. kek!!!
    Oh shit you gonna trigger alot of people

    How dare you state facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symphonic View Post
    I guess I won't vote for Obama for a third term.
    I won't tell you what to vote man. Just put peace as a priority when you go to the ballot.

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    Trolling aside, yes, Libya has been a catastrophic mistake. The country is in bits, the capital is gone, warlords are ruling half of the country, and the economy is destroyed.
    And this is only the beginning.

    This is a country that was running a socialist based secular society with an high hdi compared to other countries in the area.

    Its destabilisation also compromised European security by affecting migration patterns. Libya used to absorb subsaharian migrants and guard its coastline. Nothing of the sort happens now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    Trolling aside, yes, Libya has been a catastrophic mistake. The country is in bits, the capital is gone, warlords are ruling half of the country, and the economy is destroyed.
    And this is only the beginning.

    This is a country that was running a socialist based secular society with an high hdi compared to other countries in the area.

    Its destabilisation also compromised European security by affecting migration patterns. Libya used to absorb subsaharian migrants and guard its coastline. Nothing of the sort happens now.
    The problem with Libya is that America didn't have a plan for the "after" like always. Libya is completely fucked up atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    The problem with Libya is that America didn't have a plan for the "after" like always. Libya is completely fucked up atm.
    Why should we have a plan for after when we weren't the ones who started it? Again, the french.

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    I misread the title as "huge labia disaster" and click baited on in.
    Bandwagon sports fans can eat a bag of http://www.ddir.com/ .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Why should we have a plan for after when we weren't the ones who started it? Again, the french.
    You should go and read why Obama said Libya was the biggest mistake of his presidency.

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    I think you misspelled Labia... It happens at her age...
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    I don't think you understand what qualifies as disaster for a person like Hillary.

    My part in this story has been decided. And I will play it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repefe View Post
    I don't think you understand what qualifies as disaster for a person like Hillary.
    Especially when Trump also said to go in and now he is saying he never said it.

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