Man Arrested at Trump Rally Says He Was Trying to Kill Him

[purebalance]

Shall i list the number of Democrats actually shot because of Republican demonization? Starting with Gabby Giffords...

Oh, and protip, get a candidate who isn't a racist bigot who encites hatred is a start. Don't blame the Dems for the hatred Donald Dump inspires in both sides.

The typical "racist bigot" with 0 proof. Inb4 misquoting things as usual and then bringing up the judge thing which was not racism but a rational explanation that the judge clearly could have had an issue with him just like half of the fascist left in this country(yes I know that's an oxymoron, but many leftists are closer to fascists).

So please show me how he's a racist bigot?

[Ghostpanther]

It can be dangerous, I myself am not a violent man. I have no desire to fight wars, politics, or anything. I simply have emotions, feelings and ideas which I speak. However the second amendments addition and the founding of our nation were built on these ideas of fighting against a government that has become corrupted (which is easily seen in this election, more with Clinton than Trump, the GoP fucked themselves by having 12+ people trying to run...)

Does not matter if 100 candidates were running, this line of violent action for solving political differences is to be condemned. Trump is no Hitler and those comparing him to Hitler are being influenced by their own paranoia. If you dislike a candidate you defeat them at the polls and every chance you get you denounce them. Resorting to any type of violence is wrong.

[purebalance]

Man if only someone would do this with both Trump and Clinton...what a world. We have guns for this very reason. To put down our corrupt government.

Add Sanders, Cruz, Warren, and Ryan to the mix and you'd have a deal. Maybe Pelosi too.

[Wildtree]

So this applies to Reagan and both Kennedy's? They were attacked and the 2 killed because of hatred for what they stood for. So a candidate can be attacked because others simply hate them rather than they are promoting hatred or violence. :P

People getting assassinated for all kinds of reasons.
Relevant:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/motives.htm

The guy that shot Reagan wanted to impress Jodie Foster.

That still does not invalidate what I said. You stir up the pot, you might get burned.

Someone else made a much broader statement in that regard..

Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some
poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that
he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece.

Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in
England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is
understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who
determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the
people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or
a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.

and here's the important part

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the
bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in
any country."

Quote - Hermann Goering during the Nuremberg Trials.

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The issue is people think the comparison is being made to Hitler circa 1944, at the height of the Reich, and with the Holocaust in full swing.

That's not it.

The comparison is to Hitler circa 1932, as he was first rising to real power, and inflaming the population with exactly this kind of rhetoric.

Yes, that's it.
You nailed it.

[Xeones]

Greatly enjoying the justification of political violence in this thread. Especially after all the gnashing over that pm killed over politics.

I've seen literally no attempts that.

Thread talks about this happening because of liberal demonization, and someone points out the conservative demonization (like the planned parent hood lies republicans refused to accept after that dude shot up a clinic) Not justification, just calling out a shitty premise for the thread.

Others saying they aren't surprised given the awful rhetoric that Trump uses. Not justification, because they aren't approving of the action.

But hey, I'm sure you'll ignore what I say and try to twist things to support your narrative.

[DesMephisto]

Does not matter if 100 candidates were running, this line of violent action for solving political differences is to be condemned. Trump is no Hitler and those comparing him to Hitler are being influenced by their own paranoia. If you dislike a candidate you defeat them at the polls and every chance you get you denounce them. Resorting to any type of violence is wrong.

I agree he isnt Hitler I'm a Bernie/Jill Stein kind of guy as well. The GoP fucked themselves with Trump as their front runner because of the 12+ people. Trump was loud and obnoxious so he got the semi popular vote, while everyone else had their votes spread out among each of the candidates once they all dropped out, all the people who would have voted for one of them saw that Trump was winning. They figure their vote wouldn't matter, so they vote for Trump. That is what I meant by that comment.

You say resorting to any type of violence is wrong but its exactly what we did to create this nation.

[Revi]

The issue is people think the comparison is being made to Hitler circa 1944, at the height of the Reich, and with the Holocaust in full swing.

That's not it.

The comparison is to Hitler circa 1932, as he was first rising to real power, and inflaming the population with exactly this kind of rhetoric.

Which is silly because everyone knows that saying someone is like Hitler brings far more connotations than "charismatic guy who blamed foreigners".

I could call plenty of politicians Hitler and then, only when called out on it, defend it by saying I meant they're both good speakers and share some socialist ideals. Never mind that I and everyone listening to me would instantly hear the comparison as "he's like that mass murderer".

It's some of the lowest form of smear-propaganda that's come out this campaign, and that's saying a lot.

[Dextroden]

I've seen literally no attempts that.

Thread talks about this happening because of liberal demonization, and someone points out the conservative demonization (like the planned parent hood lies republicans refused to accept after that dude shot up a clinic) Not justification, just calling out a shitty premise for the thread.

Others saying they aren't surprised given the awful rhetoric that Trump uses. Not justification, because they aren't approving of the action.

But hey, I'm sure you'll ignore what I say and try to twist things to support your narrative.

Except all the people in here saying he deserved it for running his mouth. Like Wildtree above me.

[nonameelf]

I feel like "Liberal media" is republican version of the alien guy from the history channel.

[Ghostpanther]

People getting assassinated for all kinds of reasons.
Relevant:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/motives.htm

The guy that shot Reagan wanted to impress Jodie Foster.

That still does not invalidate what I said. You stir up the pot, you might get burned.

Someone else made a much broader statement in that regard..


and here's the important part


Quote - Hermann Goering during the Nuremberg Trials.

I understand that. It is still not right to express a opinion Trump would be attacked because of his so called hatred or violent policies ( which for those who support him is not true ). It is a overreaction to emotional opinions about a candidate. He is attacked by those who simply do not like what he stands for. Like any other candidate may be. And is absolutely something to be condemned and in no way, shape or form defended.

[Xeones]

Which is silly because everyone knows that saying someone is like Hitler brings far more connotations than "charismatic guy who blamed foreigners".

I could call plenty of politicians Hitler and then, only when called out on it, defend it by saying I meant they're both good speakers and share some socialist ideals. Never mind that I and everyone listening to me would instantly hear the comparison as "he's like that mass murderer".

It's some of the lowest form of smear-propaganda that's come out this campaign, and that's saying a lot.

Well, conveniently comparisons to Hitler aren't "charismatic guy who blamed foreigners". There is a lot more to it than that.

[Theinquisition]

Shall i list the number of Democrats actually shot because of Republican demonization? Starting with Gabby Giffords...

Oh, and protip, get a candidate who isn't a racist bigot who encites hatred is a start. Don't blame the Dems for the hatred Donald Dump inspires in both sides.

ummmm I don't think that guy was a republican, and even if he was, It's pretty stupid to demonize an entire political party because of a idiot.

[Deleted]

sounds like a good way to ruin your life

[Xeones]

Except all the people in here saying he deserved it for running his mouth. Like Wildtree above me.

Uh... I'll need you to quote and specify where he does that because I'm not seeing it. Underlined or bolds appreciated.

[Ghostpanther]

I agree he isnt Hitler I'm a Bernie/Jill Stein kind of guy as well. The GoP fucked themselves with Trump as their front runner because of the 12+ people. Trump was loud and obnoxious so he got the semi popular vote, while everyone else had their votes spread out among each of the candidates once they all dropped out, all the people who would have voted for one of them saw that Trump was winning. They figure their vote wouldn't matter, so they vote for Trump. That is what I meant by that comment.

You say resorting to any type of violence is wrong but its exactly what we did to create this nation.

In the context of what was happening then and declaring independence from a tyranny government, it is understandable. This is not that type of scenario. :P

But I do agree that Trump is not a good choice. he certainly was not my pick for a candidate. But I still feel he is better than the wicked witch of the corrupted political crowd establishment.

[Revik]

The question really is if you really and truly believe Trump to be the second coming of Hitler why isn't there more attempts on his life? Many posters on here have said they were more than willing to pull that trigger if the time arose.

Well this is it. Moment of truth. The clock is ticking.

[Eviscero]

Hmm, demonizing one man who has demonized an entire religion and at least one entire nationality. Problem?

[Wildtree]

I understand that. It is still not right to express a opinion Trump would be attacked because of his so called hatred or violent policies ( which for those how support him is not true ). It is a overreaction to emotional opinions about a candidate. He is attacked by those who simply do not like what he stands for. Like any other candidate may be. And is absolutely something to be condemned and in no way, shape or form defended.

I never said what you implied.
I said if you ignite hatred and violence, you might become a target thereof.
Because as much as you fire up those that agree with your message, you will likely accomplish the same on the opposite end of the scale.
The comparison to Hitler still holds water also from that aspect, because his rhetoric and hate propaganda earned him 25 assassination attempts in total.
And they all happened with the Nazis already in power and with that their stranglehold on the population. Which makes it harder to carry out such act, vs our democratic situation within domestic peace time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assass...n_Adolf_Hitler

See how that works?

[Revi]

Well, conveniently comparisons to Hitler aren't "charismatic guy who blamed foreigners". There is a lot more to it than that.

So he's also a genocidal racial supremacist who ultimately cost many millions of people their lives? Because that's the connotations you're alluding to when you're comparing people to Hitler.

[Eviscero]

So please show me how he's a racist bigot?

Ugh, clearly you're already aware of everything he's said, which most people believe to be bigoted. Your opinion is that those things aren't bigoted and of course your opinion isn't going to change just because someone reminds you of everything you already know about Trump.

The only thing that will change your opinion is if you get a TBI that suddenly ups your IQ by 25 points. Hey, rarer things could happen!