Girlfriend: Am I the best sex you ever had or what?
Honest guy: Nope.
Interviewer: So what do you see yourself doing in five years?
Honest guy: Getting drunk every Saturday night and hopefully doing something better than what I'd be doing here.
Random guy: Hey how are you today?
Honest guy: Horrible.
Random guy: why is that?
Honest guy: My herpes sores broke out and started oozing all over the place this morning.
Employer: Would you help this fine gentlemen?
Honest guy: There aren't any "fine gentlemen" in here.
Mother: What are you going to do this holiday weekend?
Honest guy: Get drunk and pop a cialis so I can make my girlfriend sore.
Bank Robber: Did you see my face?
Honest guy: Sure did.
I could go on for a while.
Lying is good sometimes.
Lie or shutting up (i.e., keeping stuff to yourself) are integral part of human social behavior. Avoiding them won't work.
For many of these couldn't you just use a response of "I'd rather not say" or "You really don't want to know", rather than just blurting out inappropriate things. For the bank robber example, that's obviously an extraordinary situation and one of the times where lying to protect your life is acceptable even from someone who is trying to be very honest.
I'm not sure that telling the truth or never telling a lie, requires me to say things that aren't required. If I meet someone and they are fat, am I required to just blurt out "I hate fat people!" That really has nothing to do with being honest. So I'm not sure why the world can't handle being told the truth and I still think you can tell the truth without being hurtful or mean about it.
With that said, I thin being 100% honest is a goal, that we won't always reach.
Interviewer: So what do you see yourself doing in five years?
Honest guy: Getting drunk every Saturday night and hopefully doing something better than what I'd be doing here.
That's an example of adding in extra details that aren't required or even asked for. The question wasn't do you like to party and do you think this company sucks and are just using us?
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No. /tenchars
Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.
Just, be kind.
No, too many people are liars and hypocrites, and are unable to take things straight up, especially if it concerns themselves. My rule of thumb is to be honest in life, but it backfired on me an unreal amount of times. Being open all the time is just utopia, people are gonna think you're crazy and wont have to do anything with you.
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Well if hating fat people is something that comes up your mind the first time you see the person and this directly affects your relationship with the person you should probably tell them.
100% honesty? Sure, that works fine. I'm pretty much honest to anyone who inquires. Outside of joking/exaggerating I don't purposefully tell lies. People don't always take that too well, though. It's caused a few fights with friends in the past, but I like to think they're people I can do better without.
100% openness? God no. Nobody wants that. Be open with your lover, your close family and your close friends. Feel free to be open with people who inquiry, but just opening up to every random person who happens to walk into your vicinity or strikes up a conversation? No, thank you.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Being open all the time to everyone would do no one a proper service.
The question was 100% honest and *open*.
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No, it's not viable. Just think of how many times a day you say things that you don't even consider lies, you just say them because you can't be bothered to go into any detail.
Without being 100% open and honest.
"Good morning, how are you today?"
"Good, how about yourself?"
"I'm alright, how can I help you?"
Vs. 100% open and honest
"What do you want?"
"am I fat?"
- Yes.
I can NEVER imagine a world where this would not result in chaos.
Its not viable because what if your girlfriend asks if her butt looks fat in these jeans, and her butt is taking up half the room.
"No, honey, Twiggy's butt is bigger than yours."
/rolls eyes
I don't necessarily lie about stuff but I'll avoid saying something at all if I know its not a nice thing but its the truth. Sometimes I want to call my friends fucking retarded. But I keep my mouth shut about it because we're all human.
Plus, what if your kid asks when santa will be here? You'd be the biggest ass in the world if you told a 2 year old santa doesn't exist.
Most of those examples are super trivial though. The only two that really influence his life are the one involving an interview and the one involving a girlfriend. No bank robber is going to ask if you saw their face.
I think a person could tell the truth all of the time, but they wouldn't be very liked by their peers. Besides that, sure they could live full lives otherwise.
I have friends that don't lie to their kids about santa in the first place. That doesn't make them asses.
Aimeri (Protection Warrior) Raid Lead of <Fusion> @ Zul'Jin-US
No, the very existence of society's social cohesion demands that we lie every now and then and depends on it.
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The kids don't really give a shit as long as they gets presents, believe me. The primary point of Santa is to create some uber-human being that scares you into following your parents rules. When kids find out it is not the kid that lost something, it's the parents who no longer can wield the invisible boogeyman.
So far I have had no issues living my life like that. I get called an asshole often, because I speak my mind and tell people the truth rather than what they want to hear. But whatever, it doesn't bother me. I mean, I'm sure as a child I lied, I don't think it's possible to NOT lie as a kid. But I learned early on that the truth gets better results than lies. I can live with telling the truth and getting a negative outcome more than I can the thought of having to live a lie.
I have no need to lie to make myself look good, I do not care what other people think of me.
The only time I sugarcoat things is with kids. Adults can fucking deal with it.
It isn't that hard. I don't why people think it isn't possible. Just because YOU feel the need to occasionally lie, for whatever reason, doesn't mean that EVERYONE does that same exact thing.
Game theory states NO.
A person who is 100% honest and open will leak information that others can use to gain an advantage. I realize you talked about "not revealing personal information that can be used against you", but that's outright impossible. Everyone may be smart enough to not reveal their bank information, but do a Google search for "Social Engineering Attacks", and you'll see that the possibilities for extracting exploitable information are endless.
Also, even if a person is 100% honest, it doesn't mean they will never give false information. If the honest person has been deceived, and repeat that information; the truth can be the opposite of what they say, but they are still being "honest".
The pen is mightier than the sword, but if you miss the deadline... You better bring the sword.
Aimeri (Protection Warrior) Raid Lead of <Fusion> @ Zul'Jin-US