Louisiana officer shoots man on ground (NSA graphic video)

[PC2]

What. Are. You. On. About. So you don't see "them" as equals in the country you live? But some separate people because they've got another skin colour? Clearly an overwhelming part of the black population in the US are poor, do you think they're poor because they are inferior to white people? Or what is the argument.

Being poor doesn't start at a point in time that is politically convenient, it exists as a true continuation of groups over many hundreds and thousands of years.

[Krille]

Annnnd how is this relevant to the cop filling his chest with more than one bullet while being restrained.... right there is none.

If they can't win by applying logic they will attack the victim, trying to damage his reputation. This is basic stuff, happens in every case where someone was murdered by police.

[urasim]

I'm not seeing this. I'm seeing him pinned on the ground with his head shoved into the concrete by the closer officer. I don't see any significant movement of the guy in the lead up to his being shot. I mean right after they release his head, he lifts his head and shoulders a bit, but then he lies down, several seconds pass, and then the police pull out their guns and shoot him.

Everyone but you, and one other poster, is seeing him with his face pointing up and his right arm free. Maybe you didn't watch the same video?

[Tinykong]

Why do you keep saying if he did or did not reach for his weapon? I already linked to you that the owner of the convenience store had video that the police confiscated showing that he did not reach for his gun and the officer pulled it out of his pocket after being shot in the chest multiple times.

The eye witness testimony is irrelevant. The videos that have been posted in this thread are unclear because the view is obstructed.

We don't know whether he was reaching for it, or reasonably appeared to be reaching for it. Reaching a conclusion one way or the other is extremely biased. If he was reaching for it, they should have killed him. If he wasn't, then they shouldn't have. It's that simple.

[Daelak]

Breaking the law is unacceptable in any community.

They tried to use non-lethal force. He continued to resist.

Obviously not, see: areas where there is high crime.

[Krille]

Being poor doesn't start at a point in time that is politically convenient, it exists as a true continuation of groups over many hundreds and thousands of years.

But they are Americans. Do you mean that citizens in america can't climb out of the lower class? Isn't that the whole idea behind the country? Working your way up from the shit and becoming something. Can it be, just a small chance, that it's harder (more difficult) for the average african-american to climb out of poverty because of their skin colour?

[InventiveMeasures]

If they can't win by applying logic they will attack the victim, trying to damage his reputation. This is basic stuff, happens in every case where someone was murdered by police.

Exactly, it's a piss poor rebuttal to detract from what happened.

[Tinykong]

Obviously not, see: areas where there is high crime.

Resisting arrest is never appropriate. Even resisting an unlawful arrest is a stupid idea.

If you want to make a point, do it in front of a judge, not while someone is pointing a firearm at you.

[urasim]

I haven't read that, do you have a link to that article?

You posted it...

"“While he was laying there dying, the cop went inside his pocket to pull the gun out.”" it's in one of your posts a few pages back. So, where did you get it from?

[PC2]

But they are Americans. Do you mean that citizens in america can't climb out of the lower class? Isn't that the whole idea behind the country? Working your way up from the shit and becoming something. Can it be, just a small chance, that there's harder for the average african-american to climb out of poverty because of their skin colour?

It isn't due to skin color though, that is a tiny factor. The overwhelming factor is economics going back many hundreds of years.

[Dellis0991]

He had a gun? did anyone else here that?

[Krille]

It isn't due to skin color though, that is a tiny factor. The overwhelming factor is economics going back many hundreds of years.

Surely the history of "economics" going back hundred years shouldn't matter in such a modern society as America where these kids are born? This is about systemic oppression of black people. There's no way to hide it, it's out there for everyone who's not a fucking puppet to see. How to evolve from it is difficult though, but it might solve many of Americas obvious problem with gun-related killings.

[PC2]

Resisting arrest is never appropriate. Even resisting an unlawful arrest is a stupid idea.

Yeah, if a black cop is being aggressive towards me, I'm his bitch. I would never assume the cop just wants to kill me because he is an evil black executioner. He is likely aggressive for good reason.

[Bapestar]

Isn't there an IQ requirement, to become a police officer?

[Krille]

Isn't there an IQ requirement, to become a police officer?

Not here it's not. Where i live. Nobody wants to become one because it's shit pay and puts you in danger. So they can't set their bar too high.

[PC2]

Surely the history of "economics" going back hundred years shouldn't matter in such a modern society as America where these kids are born?

Are you willing to disregard history for all groups or only those you deem special? It has to be all or none.

[InventiveMeasures]

The eye witness testimony is irrelevant. The videos that have been posted in this thread are unclear because the view is obstructed.

We don't know whether he was reaching for it, or reasonably appeared to be reaching for it. Reaching a conclusion one way or the other is extremely biased. If he was reaching for it, they should have killed him. If he wasn't, then they shouldn't have. It's that simple.

What could be more clear than the last image after the shots were heard of TWO officers restraining his hands, head, torso and legs? Saying "he's got a gun", unholster your gun and place it above his torso is NOT proper procedure.

[Daelak]

Resisting arrest is never appropriate. Even resisting an unlawful arrest is a stupid idea.

If you want to make a point, do it in front of a judge, not while someone is pointing a firearm at you.

Not everyone knows that Tinykong.

[Tinykong]

Yeah, if a black cop is being aggressive towards me, I'm his bitch. I would never assume the cop just wants to kill me because he is an evil black executioner. He is likely aggressive for a reason.

I've encountered some aggressive dick cops. I'm not sure what my rights are in any given situation, but I can tell you what I would never do: resist arrest or refuse to comply with an order to disarm.

[Polyxo]

Isn't there an IQ requirement, to become a police officer?

It's actually an inverse requirement in some places. Courts ruled in a semi-notable case that police can refuse to hire candidates whose IQ tests too high. The idea was that more intelligent cops are more prone to boredom, and thus more susceptible to corruption and abuse.