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If a woman can choose (not) to abort without father's consent, why can't father choose not to pay child support if he wants her to do an abortion but she refuses? Either that or he should be able to stop the abortion but take full responsibility for the child once it's born.
Wouldn't that make the playing field equal?
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2016-07-09, 08:42 PM #1Deleted
Why can't the father choose not to pay the child support if he wants abortion?
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2016-07-09, 08:43 PM #2Deleted
Childbirth isn't equal
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2016-07-09, 08:45 PM #3Legendary!
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The father chose to have have the baby when he had sex. In cases where the father did NOT choose to have the baby, he is not liable for any child support.
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2016-07-09, 08:45 PM #4Herald of the Titans
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Because penis.
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2016-07-09, 08:46 PM #5The Undying
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You can't tell a woman to kill her fetus. I can't think of a single culture on the planet who'd allow that.
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2016-07-09, 08:47 PM #6Legendary!
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Plot twist: German scientists cryo-froze Hitler's sperm and illegally implanted it into 7,000,000 women!
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2016-07-09, 08:48 PM #7The Lightbringer
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Imagine if this was an actual choice...how many fathers would be like "but I told her I wanted an abortion" just to get out of paying? Child support would probably become almost non existent.
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2016-07-09, 08:49 PM #8Legendary!
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Financial abortion should be a thing. You want to keep the baby knowingly that you will be alone -> you pay for the baby yourself. Would make things more equal.
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2016-07-09, 08:49 PM #9Epic!
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That's the same argument the pro lifers make. Why use this argument anyway? I'm pretty sure having sex isn't consent to being pregnant. I personally view abortion as last way of contraception. I don't see why both parties shouldn't have ability to terminate pregnancy without each others consent as being parent should be a choice independent of wheter people had sex or not. Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat
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2016-07-09, 08:50 PM #10The Unstoppable Force
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Because for men, we have decided babies are the punishment for having sex.
Women on the other hand we can't punish for having sex because that would be sexist and double plus evil!On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther. Originally Posted by Crissi
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2016-07-09, 08:50 PM #11Bloodsail Admiral
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Child support is sexist, and lead ppl thinking that women can't handle their own.
RIP child support 2016
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2016-07-09, 08:51 PM #12Epic!
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Yes I could see this being somewhat of an issue. Just like polygamy isn't really a problem, expect when you consider how ugly divorces would turn. Originally Posted by Feel The Power
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2016-07-09, 08:52 PM #13Deleted
I don't understand why this discussion keeps coming up...
If you don't wanna pay wrap up, it's simple
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2016-07-09, 08:53 PM #14Old God
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This. While we can play the game of "if he didn't want a kid, he should've used protection" until this thread gets closed, but the truth is, protection isn't 100%, as well there are plenty of opportunities where it isn't available, isn't mentioned, isn't even thought of, woman says her tubes are tied, etc, and at SOME point, some poor unlucky guy is going to win that lotto. If the woman refuses to abort (which is certainly her right), then the man should be allowed to refuse to pay child support because he doesn't want the child. Financial abortion certainly sounds like a good term for it. Originally Posted by lonely zergling
Feminists screaming for equality, but men have absolutely no say-so in this matter. Go figure. Originally Posted by Warwithin
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2016-07-09, 08:53 PM #15Brewmaster
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They can its called using protection.
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2016-07-09, 08:54 PM #16Legendary!
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The purpose of sex is to reproduce. Having sex is consent to being pregnant, according to current precedent in terms of the law. Originally Posted by luc54
That being said, child support is totally fucked right now and biased. But this solution is terrible.
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2016-07-09, 08:54 PM #17Epic!
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if you create a baby, you gotta see that it's paid for; abortion is irrelevant to that
if you're pregnant, you have the option of getting an abortion; child support is irrelevant to that.
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2016-07-09, 08:55 PM #18DeletedDon't fuck women / get the snip if you're that worried Originally Posted by endersblade
Men have to pay
Women have to squeeze it out and raise it
Men get the better deal
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2016-07-09, 08:55 PM #19Deleted
Because the welfare of an innocent child is more important that what's legally 'right or wrong' regarding the wallet of some dude that didn't remember to wrap his stump.
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2016-07-09, 08:55 PM #20Epic!
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having sex doeesn't represent consent to anything, other than you know, having sex
