No racial bias in police shootings, new study finds

[petej0]

Many rapists were once abused as children... does that statement suddenly mean that rape is okay and excusable? Stating a reason for something, doesn't mean you're excusing it. What's wrong with you?

Dont bring up the point of poverty. It doesnt matter the reason why people are committing crimes. The fact is they are, and the police are tasked with enforcing laws. So if you are going to be committing crimes, rest assured you will increase your chance of dealing with a police officer.

[Hana Song]

A theory still has to stand a certain metric of attempts at being disproven, to even get past a Hypothesis.

It's not as gradient as "Not true" or "Just plain true".

You regularly go out of your depth in terms of what you can handle, when it comes to logical discussions - This time, you are insanely far out, just so you know.

Crime is only caused by the choice of the criminal who commits the crime

[Deleted]

Crime is only caused by the choice of the criminal who commits the crime

Are you really this dense?

Are you seriously suggesting that a Psychological profile is nothing, as the only accounting factor is "choice"?

You are, DANGEROUSLY ignorant. Like, really, it's scary.

[dubious_doomhammer]

It's not socioeconomic status that makes you commit a crime, it's your own choice to be a scumbag

If you don't think socioeconomic status, unstable employment rates, education, etc don't affect crime rates, you're seriously mistaken.

Is a parent stealing food to feed their children a scumbag? That would be committing a crime after all.

https://pub209healthcultureandsociet...48e2d73a269af0

Link has references at the bottom.

[Hana Song]

If you don't think socioeconomic status, unstable employment rates, education, etc don't affect crime rates, you're seriously mistaken.

Choice affects crime rates more than any of those
If being poor causes crime then we should purge the poor so we could have less crime

[Themius]

Dont bring up the point of poverty. It doesnt matter the reason why people are committing crimes. The fact is they are, and the police are tasked with enforcing laws. So if you are going to be committing crimes, rest assured you will increase your chance of dealing with a police officer.

What? Why not bring up the reason? Bringing up the reason shows that it's not purely a race issue when it comes to crime. Just look in this thread "blacks have attitude" "blacks are just naturally violent"... if that's the case why are whites in urban areas with similar economic standing just as violent?

- - - Updated - - -

Choice affects crime rates more than any of those
If being poor causes crime then we should purge the poor so we could have less crime

Poor people are more likley to commit crime. That's just a fact.

[Hana Song]

Poor people are more likley to commit crime. That's just a fact.

People who have something to gain by committing a crime are more likely to commit crime too, that's just a fact and is not restricted to poor people

[Begrudge]

this makes the study completely correct no matter how you argue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2eOe4iH4SU

[dubious_doomhammer]

Choice affects crime rates more than any of those
If being poor causes crime then we should purge the poor so we could have less crime

So your suggestion to poverty is genocide ... wow.

[Hana Song]

So your suggestion to poverty is genocide ... wow.

No, poverty doesn't cause crime so it's not needed

[Themius]

No, poverty doesn't cause crime so it's not needed

Crime of opportunity are rife in poor communites...

[Hana Song]

Crime of opportunity are rife in poor communites...

That doesn't make poverty cause crime, rich people commit crime when it is beneficial for them with low risk of penalties too

[Nynax]

Anecdotes aside, "I am poor, so I will rob the 7-11" is not an excuse and will not fix your position in life. All that aside, what do you want the cops to do? Should they not enforce the laws?



NO, NO, NO....This is the result of raising taxes.

When you raises taxes, the people who can afford to, leave. Leaving those who cant left behind to pick up the slack. So what happens, in the great wisdom of politicians, they raise taxes again. This continues the outward migration into the cheaper 'burbs. This is how you decimate a tax base. Now all you have left are those who cant afford to leave, poverty and crime. Then you look around and wonder why no new businesses open up. You cant get businesses to open to serve the local community because of cost, crime and the people who live there cant afford what your selling anyways. So there will be no jobs, on top of all that.

Cops should continue to do their jobs, Law Enforcement. There's really no 2-cents about it. When a problem is large scale and systematic that's when the legislature is supposed to step in and change policy.

And whatever your economic opinion or ideology is, at least we agree that economy is the real problem. If only figuring out a real solution could not be political for once, but alas...

[petej0]

What? Why not bring up the reason? Bringing up the reason shows that it's not purely a race issue when it comes to crime. Just look in this thread "blacks have attitude" "blacks are just naturally violent"... if that's the case why are whites in urban areas with similar economic standing just as violent?

I am not arguing that it is a race issue. It is a law enforcement, and public attitude to police and their presence, issue. The media and simple folks want you to think it is a race issue. The easy answer is blame racism, we as a society dont want to look past the skin color and find the real problems, because it is either too difficult, doesnt fit a narrative, or shines lights on a problem we all just want to ignore.

Cops should continue to do their jobs, Law Enforcement. There's really no 2-cents about it. When a problem is large scale and systematic that's when the legislature is supposed to step in and change policy.

And whatever your economic opinion or ideology is, at least we agree that economy is the real problem. If only figuring out a real solution could not be political for once, but alas...

See above.

[Dug]

That doesn't make poverty cause crime, rich people commit crime when it is beneficial for them with low risk of penalties too

The vast majority of criminals in the US are/were in poverty or at least borderline.

[Seani]

Typically the best thing to do after shootings like this is to just turn the news off. I read articles from sources that have constantly brought facts. Don't watch MSNBC.

[dubious_doomhammer]

No, poverty doesn't cause crime so it's not needed

I can't tell if you're trolling, or you're actually serious. I linked an article that specifically associates crime rates with socioeconomic status, education, health status, and poverty - you're choosing to ignore it and substitute your opinion as fact.

[Deleted]

If you don't think socioeconomic status, unstable employment rates, education, etc don't affect crime rates, you're seriously mistaken.

Europe during the recent recession had overall reduction in crime rate:
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statist..._100)_YB14.png
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statist...ions)_YB14.png

Property crime went up temporarily only to fall down like crime in general.

Your serve.

[Hana Song]

I can't tell if you're trolling, or you're actually serious. I linked an article that specifically associates crime rates with socioeconomic status, education, health status, and poverty - you're choosing to ignore it and substitute your opinion as fact.

It says possible contributor, it doesn't say it is the cause

[TheMediator]

Are you really this dense?

Are you seriously suggesting that a Psychological profile is nothing, as the only accounting factor is "choice"?

You are, DANGEROUSLY ignorant. Like, really, it's scary.

Nah. It's random probability that the recent string of suicide bombers just happened to have pledged allegiance to ISIS. They could have very well have pledged allegiance to Burger King because they "wanted it their way", but random happenstance got us where we are.