Whose Trump's VP going to be?

[Damajin]

I liked Pence back when he actually had some conviction and principles, but ever since he started his transition from Congress to the Governors Mansion he's turned into a total shitshow. I wonder how his good friend Jeb Bush is going to take this news haha.

[Logwyn]

Lol she can't be VP, she's an immigrant.

Ivanka Marie Trump
October 30, 1981 (age 34)
Manhattan, New York, United States?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanka_Trump.

What?

[Paranoid Android]

I want the 6 wife ticket.

[Sky High]

ugh he better not pick Flynn, he pretty much kneecapped it himself but still... might as well be that bitch boy Christie.

[Bollocks]

Fuck you Trump. Fuck you really. You little stupid shithead. How hard is to pick Gingrich you ass licker? I hope the burden of picking an openly homophobic candidate crushes your stupid campaign.

[Uoyredrum]

Ronald Mcdonald

[Bollocks]

Well all the noise today is it's going to be Pence. The first thing Pence will do is renounce his fervent support of trade deals he expressed in the past.

Another thing republicans run against the majority of experts.

[Pangean]

Ivanka Marie Trump
October 30, 1981 (age 34)
Manhattan, New York, United States?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanka_Trump.

What?

Brain fart. Was thinking of his wife.

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Fuck you Trump. Fuck you really. You little stupid shithead. How hard is to pick Gingrich you ass licker? I hope the burden of picking an openly homophobic candidate crushes your stupid campaign.

Well one small hope is it's not officially announced yet. How much did you loose?

[Kaleredar]

Wasn't Newt Gingrich the guy who wanted to be ruler of the Moon?

[Pangean]

Wasn't Newt Gingrich the guy who wanted to be ruler of the Moon?

Thinks of himself as a grand visionary and proposed moon bases. Not sure if he actually wanted to rule them though.

[Skroe]

Mike Pence? Trump just lost the election.

Useless, boring choice that gets Trump nothing he didn't have already. Shoulda gone for the ex-DIA Director.

[Kaleredar]

Thinks of himself as a grand visionary and proposed moon bases. Not sure if he actually wanted to rule them though.

I'm pretty sure people have proposed moon bases for decades, if not hundreds of years.

The only difference is that they weren't running to be leader of the free world. Or, in this case, his lackey.


Though I guess a giant show-of-power money pit on the moon is a better idea than a giant show-of-power money pit on the mexican border.

[akris15]

Mike Pence? Trump just lost the election.

Useless, boring choice that gets Trump nothing he didn't have already. Shoulda gone for the ex-DIA Director.

Everyone says this is the "safe" choice but personally I disagree. Like you said hes boring and the only thing I see of value from him is he can sure up the rust belt Ted Cruz supporter but personally that's not worth with how he is disliked in Indiana and some of the weird stuff like the whole funerals for aborted fetuses. Worst part is he is Pro-free trade which would be in direct conflict with a populist like Trump.

[Skroe]

Thinks of himself as a grand visionary and proposed moon bases. Not sure if he actually wanted to rule them though.

Gingrich, when not talking about social conservative stuff, is a brilliant, highly nuanced and highly detailed ideas guy. His proposal for colonizing the moon - if you want to do that - is pretty much exactly the way it should go, from a technical, organizational and legal angle. He's clearly spent a lot of time researching it and planning it out because it's important to him personally.

The most controversial notion, which really shouldn't be, is that after the Lunar Outpost population reaches a certain threshold, it (the colony, not the whole Moon) become a US territory, and then in in time a US State as people live and have children there. This actually makes a huge amount of sense, no matter the off-planet destination. Sure the first visitors are likely to be Government Employees (Astronauts) followed by carefully vetted contractors. But over time, as missions go from 3 years to 7 years to 15 years to indefinite, people will start getting married, having families on the Moon (or Mars) and no longer be government employees or contractors. They'll be civilians in a workforce.

His vision is applicable to anywhere because it actually addresses the thing that starry-eyed space idealists look over, which is the legal framework. What if someone on the moon physically assaults somebody else? Probably won't happen if they're NASA Astronauts. But what happens if there is a base of 500 people. Probably will happen. How does the law handle that?

The controversial notion about the colony->territory->state thing has to do with revving dormant (but still valid) sections of the US Constitution and US Code for handling unorganized territories, that the US last made use of on a large scale with Alaska and Hawaii. But it is entirely applicable to the Moon, Mars or anywhere else. However for it to be legal, the US would have to withdraw from the Outer Space Treaty if 1967. However, among space enthusiasts, that needs to happen anyway as it is blamed for nearly zeroing the growth of commercial spaceflight until recently by preventing ownership claims by governments, individuals or businesses. In the past two years, the US, as it has been setting up it's commercial spaceflight legal framework (spurred by SpaceX and others), has basically instructed commercial firms to ignore that provision of the Outer Space Treaty. It's a dead clause walking.

Gingrich was lampooned for the Moon stuff. He shouldn't have been. He knows his stuff about it, and more than that, this is a major American politician who isn't talking warp drives and a real life Federation. He's talking about bills passing in congress where he served, and applying existing law, to legally enable a hugely ambitious American undertaking.

Right left or center, we should applaud Gingrich for a very grounded approach to something that small minded and unambitious people like Barack Obama lampooned as quixotic. And that's coming from someone who doesn't even particularly like Newt.

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Everyone says this is the "safe" choice but personally I disagree. Like you said hes boring and the only thing I see of value from him is he can sure up the rust belt Ted Cruz supporter but personally that's not worth with how he is disliked in Indiana and some of the weird stuff like the whole funerals for aborted fetuses. Worst part is he is Pro-free trade which would be in direct conflict with a populist like Trump.

The rust belt stuff won't get trump that far. Besides, the narrative of the ex- DIA director saying "I served under Obama, and worked with Clinton... I was fired because I objected to their course, this is why they're dead wrong and why Hillary must be stopped" is a far stronger narrative.

Probably comes down tot he fact that the DIA Director is a Democrat. That just goes to show how Obama works though - you're not a true believer kowtowing to the Ben Rhodes written work of fiction? You're done.

Personally I would have loved the Director making Obama pay and keep paying for his many foreign policy and security mistakes the past 4 years.

[Celista]

Fuck you Trump. Fuck you really. You little stupid shithead. How hard is to pick Gingrich you ass licker? I hope the burden of picking an openly homophobic candidate crushes your stupid campaign.

Gingrich is a loon and doesn't appeal to moderates at all, he would have been a terrible choice.

[Ghostpanther]

Looks like it is going to be Pence. Good choice. He will help to unite the party and consolidate the conservative base.

[Skroe]

Looks like it is going to be Pence. Good choice. He will help to unite the party and consolidate the conservative base.

Yeah. No he won't. Still not voting for Trump. Not in a million years. #NeverTrump means Never Trump.

[monkmastaeq]

Hulk hogan!!!!!!

[Bollocks]

Brain fart. Was thinking of his wife.

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Well one small hope is it's not officially announced yet. How much did you loose?

500$ which roughly translates into 3500 Bs. Rip any luxury product I could think of for an entire month.

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Gingrich is a loon and doesn't appeal to moderates at all, he would have been a terrible choice.

Yeah, but I had money on Gingrich.

[Sky High]

ah thank god, Mike Flynn dodged a major fuckin bullet there.