[Legion - 7.2] Not's Demonology Guide

[Woz]

With the updated tuning pass is grim Sup going to be the definitive go to?

No.

Woz which talent build are you using for raid?

Depends on the fight.

[janzy]

No.



Depends on the fight.

Mind giving me a quick run down of what you would use for pure St?

shadowflame/imporovedDS/HoG/grim syn/DB. and what the appropriate openner might be? Thanks

[Reaper11b]

Mind giving me a quick run down of what you would use for pure St?

shadowflame/imporovedDS/HoG/grim syn/DB. and what the appropriate openner might be? Thanks

In the guide openers are covered (link in table of contents) and here's a link to recommended talents for heroic EN encounters that Not wrote up I believe:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=768509428

[Deleted]

Hello fellow dark summoners!

At this very moment my haste is 35% ub 36% with haste-food and 51% with chronoshard triggered.
Am I close being at point where haste doesnt scale anymore as bis stat?

edit: running 252k 9min dps to training dummy

[kamuii]

No.



Depends on the fight.

How about for single target?

[Confined]

Was call Dreadstalkers always an instant? I could swear it wasn't.

[Inshabel]

Was call Dreadstalkers always an instant? I could swear it wasn't.

It's not, there's a PvP talent to make it instant in PvP areas.

[Mongosaurus]

How about for single target?

They literally provided you a spreadsheet with skills for every single boss. Still you ask for what talents ST.

[xuros]

With the buffs, does the stat weights of the relics change any?

[Deleted]

i did some st sims changing my haste rating with higher ilvl items i had in my bags. I ve noticed that around 36% haste, its value drops allmost to the other secondary stat lvls. So i was wondring how much haste do you all stak? Currently i am at 37% haste.

Still feels wierd to ditch 20 ilvl higher items just cause they have Mastery+Versatility and since i am not an expert in sims, i am asking to see if you get similar results. Or i am doing smthing wrong.

[Dking157]

In EN I should pick shadowflame or demonic calling?

EDIT:

SimC:

with shadowflame: 279944.8
without shadowflame: 277139.9

At dummy shadowflame is better.

Should I use shadowflame on cooldown or wait for 2 charges and do the 3x debuff combo?


EDIT2:
Sorry, just saw the mechanics!

[murdax]

In EN I should pick shadowflame or demonic calling?

EDIT:

SimC:

with shadowflame: 279944.8
without shadowflame: 277139.9

At dummy shadowflame is better.

Should I use shadowflame on cooldown or wait for 2 charges and do the 3x debuff combo?


EDIT2:
Sorry, just saw the mechanics!

I am wondering the same thing too as to how to use it

[Dking157]

SF -> 4 fillers -> SF -> 4 fillers - SF, wait until 2 stacks and repeat

[kamuii]

They literally provided you a spreadsheet with skills for every single boss. Still you ask for what talents ST.

I'm blind.....

[Woz]

I am wondering the same thing too as to how to use it

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...uide#mechanics

[PowerOfTwo]

Is the Implosion / soul conduit build still our best option for M+?

[Darkheart]

After the Doomguard 18% buff, how good is Supremacy vs Synergy on Single Target?

[Deleted]

Is the Implosion / soul conduit build still our best option for M+?

Pretty much, yes. Blasting through adds is always gonna be more valuable than the extra 30k DPS on the odd ST bosses.

[SpikeySquad]

So I have recently swapped to Shadow Flame from DC and it feels very weird to me to not be able to chain together summons anymore (while doing a ST build). I'm guessing CD, SF, Imps and DE will be too long for unbuffed Dreads? What about Imps, SF, CD, DE though that means I would have likely been capped on shards (unless there's a Doom tick) which is not ideal either. 3 Imps is always a DPS loss even if you can chain summons? Maybe I just have to get used to it more and should forget the chaining (apart from Doomy or getting lucky with Doom ticks).

Does anyone else feel there is a slight delay sometimes for say on one shard then SF and then CD? Seems like sometimes the game takes time to realise I have 2 shards.

Oh and third question. In the SF opening anyone know where is best to put in Blood Fury (orc racial, 15 seconds more Spell Power)? I find that sometimes there is a delay before I can hit the 3rd SF. Not sure though if I am doing the second too early or whether the Fury should go after the 2nd SF. I need to focus more on this to see what the issue is.

Thanks for any help

[Slashkill]

Is there any comparison of DPS by race? I'm just curious how much more DPS would an Orc dish out compared to BE in, let's say, full EN mythic gear?