Are you proud of your country?

[spinner981]

Like, right now? No. As a whole, including its entire history? Yes, of course I am.

Live in the US.

[Nelle]

From Denmark and damn proud of my country.

And I'm happy as fuck

[endersblade]

Not anymore, and I'm ashamed that I killed people to defend it.

[Deleted]

There are downs and ups, but yes, I am proud of my country.

[Tuor]

Yes and no.

I obviously didn't choose to born here, this is still my home, and i feel good being at home. And i'm proud of what my ancestors did, they created a country oput of nothing, and manage to defend it, sometimes with nothing else other then just sticks, we discovered and sailed out in the seas of the world with nothing else then a shitty caravel or a carrack and a astrolabius, we kicked Napoleon's butt 3 times in a row. So yes, i am really proud of what my ancestors achived.

But i'm not proud of the gentleman that lead it to disgrace, our beloved politicians, once the most powerfull and wealthy nation in the world being nothing else then a slave economy of the EU.

Being a fearsome republican, as i am, currently i would gladly pledge to the service of some of the great Kings of our past, sadly, there is none, all modern local politicians are incompetent...

But still, i am proud, just because this is my HOME.

[Frozenbeef]

Brexit...so no...

[Mifuyne]

Not specifically.
Just happy I'm not a patriot.

[Deleted]

Yes and no.

I obviously didn't choose to born here, this is still my home, and i feel good being at home. And i'm proud of what my ancestors did, they created a country oput of nothing, and manage to defend it, sometimes with nothing else other then just sticks, we discovered and sailed out in the seas of the world with nothing else then a shitty caravel or a carrack and a astrolabius, we kicked Napoleon's butt 3 times in a row. So yes, i am really proud of what my ancestors achived.

But i'm not proud of the gentleman that lead it to disgrace, our beloved politicians, once the most powerfull and wealthy nation in the world being nothing else then a slave economy of the EU.

Being a fearsome republican, as i am, currently i would gladly pledge to the service of some of the great Kings of our past, sadly, there is none, all modern local politicians are incompetent...

But still, i am proud, just because this is my HOME.

spain ?

[clappywappy]

i'm proud of america and its freedoms, but mabye not some of our attitudes.

[Tuor]

spain ?

You missed by a inch.

Portugal.

[ArguesWithStrangers]

American here. I'm less proud as I get older. The things I believed about my own people, i.e. that they were entrepreneurial, hard-working, risk-taking, self-motivated, individualists, has proven less and less true as time progresses. More and more we are embracing the politics and culture of envy, mediocrity, weakness and collectivism characterized by Western Europe.

Regardless of that however, I'm oath-sworn to protect my people no matter how I feel about them. Come what may, they are my people and I'll never have another to call my own. If nothing else, I still feel a great affection for my brothers and sisters in the profession of arms. I'd feel as though I'd abandoned them if they were sent to do the nation's ugly business without me while there is still strength within me for the fight.

[Deleted]

You missed by a inch.

Portugal.

well you won the euro too

[Deleted]

You have to be a real dupe to think nationalism is anything other than a control system.

You know why your "country" doesn't do anything good for you? Because it doesn't exist. Your "country" is a small political elite screwing over you and everyone else that lives there. When the small group wants you to do something (work harder, go kill foreigners) it talks about national pride because that is a great way of making you think they are on your side.

If you put away your nationalism for thirty seconds you'd understand the enemy is the political elite in your own country, not some foreigner somewhere.

[Tuor]

well you won the euro too

That's just a minor feat of strenght .

[ArguesWithStrangers]

You have to be a real dupe to think nationalism is anything other than a control system.

You know why your "country" doesn't do anything good for you? Because it doesn't exist. Your "country" is a small political elite screwing over you and everyone else that lives there. When the small group wants you to do something (work harder, go kill foreigners) it talks about national pride because that is a great way of making you think they are on your side.

If you put away your nationalism for thirty seconds you'd understand the enemy is the political elite in your own country, not some foreigner somewhere.

I'm assuming you think we should do away with the political elites in our own countries in favor of a global political elite that is even more distant and less accountable to our desires amirite?

[Deleted]

American here. I'm less proud as I get older. The things I believed about my own people, i.e. that they were entrepreneurial, hard-working, risk-taking, self-motivated, individualists, has proven less and less true as time progresses. More and more we are embracing the politics and culture of envy, mediocrity, weakness and collectivism characterized by Western Europe.

Western europe did not crash the global economy and has not lost successive wars, whatever else might be wrong with it.

You militarists are a massive dead weight on your country, whatever you might claim to be.

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I'm assuming you think we should do away with the political elites in our own countries in favor of a global political elite that is even more distant and less accountable to our desires amirite?

No.


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[Daneman]

Nope, bunch of miserable fuckwads that puts other peoples wellbeing above danes.

[ArguesWithStrangers]

Western europe did not crash the global economy and has not lost successive wars, whatever else might be wrong with it.

You militarists are a massive dead weight on your country, whatever you might claim to be.

It never fails to amaze me the lengths weak people will go to try and cloak their personal cowardice and selfishness as intellectual and moral superiority. I've got bad news for you cupcake, the prosperity and security you enjoy were bought by someone with blood on his hands. You are not freed from culpability in a violent act you benefit from simply because you lacked the stomach to undertake that act yourself. It's akin to decrying the brutality of the butcher while you eat the steak.

If you want credibility for your "passivity" and distaste for American power, go to a place where your life and livelihood are not protected by us or those like us. I'll still think you're an idiot, but I'll at least give you credit for putting your money where your mouth is.

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No.

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So you're not a nationalist or a globalist. What do you propose then, tribalism?

[Deleted]

It never fails to amaze me the lengths weak people will go to try and cloak their personal cowardice and selfishness as intellectual and moral superiority. I've got bad news for you cupcake, the prosperity and security you enjoy were bought by someone with blood on his hands.

are you talking about the war with the native americans ? what other war bought you security and prosperity that you took a part . oh i guess the nuclear bombs in japan

[Deleted]

Somewhat, although I'd prefer if the EU was toned down so it couldn't overrule the danish laws.. It'll happen eventuelly, the downfall of EU is long overdue imo., as it has already fulfilled its purpose.