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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeJoe View Post

    They don't normally lend money to people in poverty.
    And why should they? There is no promise they will get their money back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    So you are saying the successful people with 3 summer homes, sports cars, and a yacht aren't spending?

    I suppose if you are comfortable with other people telling you what to do you with your money.

    I already give up about 25% of my wages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    What do you reckon the result is when a horde of people try to invade an honest man's property, who does not deserve or is not legally bound to share in any way?

    I can guarantee you, it's not the police helping the idiots to rob any places.
    The people outnumber the police a million to one. Lets them try to stop rich people from being robbed once normal people are have no choice left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeJoe View Post
    They don't normally lend money to people in poverty. And the middle class is shrinking.
    They lend to governments all the time though, through bond purchases. Thus funding the hopes and dreams of billions of poor people around the world. The sad fact is that the Western poor are still in the global 1%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    And why should they? There is no promise they will get their money back.

    Yeah, you might want to read that convo from the start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    So you hate Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, George Soros, the vast majority of popular musicians as well as most actors and actresses? Or had you not thought about that... and I'm still waiting on how much YOU plan to start sharing.
    you are grossly overestimating a lot of their pay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    So you hate Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, George Soros, the vast majority of popular musicians as well as most actors and actresses? Or had you not thought about that... and I'm still waiting on how much YOU plan to start sharing.
    I don't like them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadiru View Post
    They lend to governments all the time though, through bond purchases. Thus funding the hopes and dreams of billions of poor people around the world. The sad fact is that the Western poor are still in the global 1%.

    Poverty rates for a single person is about 12k a year.

    To be a part of the global 1% you need to be making about 35k a year.... So no you are incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook12 View Post
    Conditions have never been more unequal either.
    Doesn't matter, as long as starvation is as low as it is and tech is getting cheaper the vast majority won't get off their ass to revolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook12 View Post
    The people outnumber the police a million to one. Lets them try to stop rich people from being robbed once normal people are have no choice left.
    Oh yeah, that's a helpful and completely reasonable train of thought.
    You're not to think you are anything special. You're not to think you are as good as we are. You're not to think you are smarter than we are. You're not to convince yourself that you are better than we are. You're not to think you know more than we do. You're not to think you are more important than we are. You're not to think you are good at anything. You're not to laugh at us. You're not to think anyone cares about you. You're not to think you can teach us anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeJoe View Post
    Poverty rates for a single person is about 12k a year.

    To be a part of the global 1% you need to be making about 35k a year.... So no you are incorrect.
    You're still well within the top income quintile as a poor person in the developed world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook12 View Post
    Venenzuela is doing a hell of a lot better than Somalia which is a completely unsharing country.
    The IMF estimates that Venezuela’s inflation rate is running at nearly 700% this year, and is projected to exceed 1,600% next year. Yea that sharing is working perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StaticHound View Post
    See the thing about Rich people is...they are Rich enough to afford the ways to keep their money safe.. You think wealth distribution is going to happen. In reality, the middle class is going to be the ones paying. This game isn't a new one.
    There is only one way to truly fix the world and its money problems... and that is to destroy it utterly and build it anew.
    Cheerful lack of self-preservation

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook12 View Post
    The people outnumber the police a million to one. Lets them try to stop rich people from being robbed once normal people are have no choice left.
    When do you believe that day comes, and why?

    Are we talking about countries with no trustworthy law enforcement and/or corrupt goverment, or any socialist country, say, in Europe?

    Perhaps it is time for the other countries to introduce a livable wage and a system where the poor and the sick can still live a life worth living. But hey, it'd be called communism anyway so I'll be happy and scoff at those people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadiru View Post
    You're still well within the top income quintile as a poor person in the developed world.

    /waves to goalpost. Glad you moved it. Was getting boring in that one spot.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    So you are saying the successful people with 3 summer homes, sports cars, and a yacht aren't spending?

    I suppose if you are comfortable with other people telling you what to do you with your money.
    No they are not spending enough and it would be impossible for those with that much money to do so. The strongest driving force in any economy is the middle class. The rich cannot spend enough money to have an equivalent spending power as a strong middle class. However what has been trending since the 1970s is that while the GDP of America has kept a steady growth rate, wages, specifically middle class wages have stagnated. This means that while the economy of the US is growing, the money is not going to the most efficient places. So to imply that rich people are spending enough money to offset the loss in spending power that the middle class has seen is extremely stupid and shows your ignorance to how basic economics works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veredyn View Post
    There is only one way to truly fix the world and its money problems... and that is to destroy it utterly and build it anew.
    Then the people that do more will have more to show for it, and the people that did absolutely nothing will complain about it.

    The only difference now is that people have died.
    You're not to think you are anything special. You're not to think you are as good as we are. You're not to think you are smarter than we are. You're not to convince yourself that you are better than we are. You're not to think you know more than we do. You're not to think you are more important than we are. You're not to think you are good at anything. You're not to laugh at us. You're not to think anyone cares about you. You're not to think you can teach us anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook12 View Post
    The people outnumber the police a million to one. Lets them try to stop rich people from being robbed once normal people are have no choice left.
    We have this thing called army and weapons that outnumber their power million to one. Let them try to breach through hail of bullets once they devolve into mindless savages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook12 View Post
    The people outnumber the police a million to one. Lets them try to stop rich people from being robbed once normal people are have no choice left.
    No, they dont outnumber them a million to one... and if you are hell bent on taking what someone else's has, then start with me... Come take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook12 View Post
    I don't like them.
    then why are you buying their records, why are you going to their movies, why are you supporting them if you dont like them?

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