Republican Election 2016 - Donald Trump Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Shalcker]

2. Its not, because Trump is already suspected of being a russian plant. This just confirms the priors of a lot of people.

You mean "confirmation bias" validates an argument?

Saying Hillary is guilty of it too (regardless if its true or not) is the equivalent of saying see mommy they did it too.

No, it'll just mean US has election with two Russian agents running for president. And one of them will win anyway. Maybe it's some kind of GRU vs FSB rivalry (like CIA vs FBI) - who gets the most agents into White House.

It did not work for the Democrats during the dnc leaks and it wont work for Trump on this case. And specially given how Trump delivers those attacks. I read somewhere that people were getting tired of the email scandal and benghazi, so it would come out as the boy screaming wolf.

There are Soros leaks being released right now, those might be fun too.

If people are getting tired... why aren't they getting tired of anti-Trump articles?

3. See above. How strong are those connections is not relevant, the fact that there are connections its all that matters at this point to the general public.

Well, if "any connection will do", then Hillary has plenty of those, and then entire argument is back to "two Russian agents going for President" - neutral.

[Bollocks]

You don't think they are far left because you're far left, no surprise.

How is CNN far left?

[zenkai]

How is CNN far left?

Pay attention and you will find out, they aren't called the Clinton News Network for nothing.

[Bollocks]

You mean "confirmation bias" validates an argument?

No, it'll just mean US has election with two Russian agents running for president. And one of them will win anyway. Maybe it's some kind of GRU vs FSB rivalry (like CIA vs FBI) - who gets the most agents into White House.

There are Soros leaks being released right now, those might be fun too.

If people are getting tired... why aren't they getting tired of anti-Trump articles?

Well, if "any connection will do", then Hillary has plenty of those, and then entire argument is back to "two Russian agents going for President" - neutral.

We are still discussing how this affect the perception of the public when it comes to Trump are we? Because I already claimed that I don't think the connections are that strong to make a case that Trump is a russian plant. Also most arguments made against Clinton wont do, because once I again it would be equivalent of the boy screaming wolf.

[zenkai]

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-...eology-2014-10

[Bollocks]

Pay attention and you will find out, they aren't called the Clinton News Network for nothing.

Is clinton a far left politician? I always suspected a far left politicias based on US standards would be someone like Bernie or Jill Stein.

[NYC17]

You don't think they are far left because you're far left, no surprise.

Shhh, don't tell my voting record I m far left. It may disown me. It's like you don't even know...

Either that or your political analysis is shit.

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Pay attention and you will find out, they aren't called the Clinton News Network for nothing.

No one of serious note considers Clinton to be far left. It's like you don't even know... things.

[Dug]

Pay attention and you will find out, they aren't called the Clinton News Network for nothing.

But.. Clinton isn't far left lol... she's not even a little left.

[Noxx79]

Shhh, don't tell my voting record I m far left. It may disown me. It's like you don't even know...

Either that or your political analysis is shit.

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No one of serious note considers Clinton to be far left. It's like you don't even know... things.

That's OK, because his link doesn't show what he's saying it does. According the the graph, CNN's audience is "left leaning", right on the line between mostly liberal and mixed, and there are many more sources that are even further to the left than CNN.

"Left leaning" is not Far Left.

[NYC17]

That's OK, because his link doesn't show what he's saying it does. According the the graph, CNN's audience is "left leaning", right on the line between mostly liberal and mixed, and there are many more sources that are even further to the left than CNN.

"Left leaning" is not Far Left.

And it even states that CNN draws it's audience from across the ideological spectrum. This stuff is par for the course with him though.

[Aggrophobic]

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-...eology-2014-10

So... CNN is in the middle? Didn't you say it was "far left"?

[Kyriani]

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-...eology-2014-10

So what you're link is showing is that most of the big news networks are left leaning but not far from the middle while there is rather little in the way of conservative news networks towards the right with Fox News beign about as far as the left leaning ones and pretty much EVERYTHING else conservative is way further right than that.



But what does that mean exactly? That news networks favor the left? Or that what the right considers news just doesn't jive with most people? That site is basing its news network ratings on polls of the viewers so its not really an indication of ideological leanings of the networks (not to say it isn't correct though).

[alexw]

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-...eology-2014-10

You do realize all that link does is show how utterly wrong you are? That there is a big grouping together of where most Americans lie between WSJ and slate with the average somewhere around CNN which is where 44% of Americans get their news from, and then you have a bunch of far right and completely wackjob far right outlier sources? A.k.a Fox News, Drudge, nutjob radio, etc.....

It is nice of you to provide the data to disprove yourself I must say.....

[Theodarzna]

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-...eology-2014-10

I think it would be much more fruitful to ask "How old are the people using these sources?"

[Felya]

Pay attention and you will find out, they aren't called the Clinton News Network for nothing.

Who calls it the Clinton News Network? Be careful, it might just reveal where your political middle is.

[zenkai]

Man, you kids are blowing up my inbox. You have to be biased and ignorant to not see most news sites lean left. I am tired of sites with agendas, I just want to know the facts.

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So what you're link is showing is that most of the big news networks are left leaning but not far from the middle while there is rather little in the way of conservative news networks towards the right with Fox News beign about as far as the left leaning ones and pretty much EVERYTHING else conservative is way further right than that.

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But what does that mean exactly? That news networks favor the left? Or that what the right considers news just doesn't jive with most people? That site is basing its news network ratings on polls of the viewers so its not really an indication of ideological leanings of the networks (not to say it isn't correct though).

It's as far left as Fox is far right, or are you saying Fox isn't far right?

[Dug]

Man, you kids are blowing up my inbox. You have to be biased and ignorant to not see most news sites lean left. I am tired of sites with agendas, I just want to know the facts.

Western society in general leans more left/progressive. Times change and all that. But even the fact only websites get hand waived if they say something someone disagrees with.

[NYC17]

Man, you kids are blowing up my inbox. You have to be biased and ignorant to not see most news sites lean left. I am tired of sites with agendas, I just want to know the facts.

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It's as far left as Fox is far right, or are you saying Fox isn't far right?

No one is blowing up your inbox. You made a rather stupid statement, then "supported" it with a link that counters your own statement.

People reacting to that is kind of a given. Receiving notifications of push back to your statement is how the site works.

[zenkai]

No one is blowing up your inbox. You made a rather stupid statement, then "supported" it with a link that counters your own statement.

People reacting to that is kind of a given. Receiving notifications of push back to your statement is how the site works.

Please point out how wrong it is, you have no idea what you are talking about as usual.

[Kyriani]

Man, you kids are blowing up my inbox. You have to be biased and ignorant to not see most news sites lean left. I am tired of sites with agendas, I just want to know the facts.

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It's as far left as Fox is far right, or are you saying Fox isn't far right?

Personally I wouldn't even call Fox News a news network but that graph isn't saying the news networks are left or right per se but rather their viewers are. Not to say that the networks dont lean one way or the other. What that graph is telling me is that conservatives are in the minority in the United States.