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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Which polls since the debate are trending sharply to Clinton? I see 4 general election polls on RCP since Monday's debate...2 favoring Trump and 2 favoring Hillary. If there's any trend, it's that Trump is polling much better in the general election polls than he did before the debate. What am I missing here?
    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...ex_cid=rrpromo

    Clinton's gone from 55% to 63% in the last few days. Trump bombed Monday. And you're avoiding the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paula Deen View Post
    Which RCP Polling are you looking at? There are no polls with viable post debate results on RCP. All the polls there were done days before to the day after. Neither of which is even close to enough time to determine the winners based on it. Even counting out that, only 2 polls on RCP are from AFTER the debate. 2 of them. Not 4.
    I see what you're saying. Agree, too early to tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    Which polls since the debate are trending sharply to Clinton? I see 4 general election polls on RCP
    I'm fairly sure he was talking about debate polls, dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paula Deen View Post
    Which RCP Polling are you looking at? There are no polls with viable post debate results on RCP. All the polls there were done days before to the day after. Neither of which is even close to enough time to determine the winners based on it. Even counting out that, only 2 polls on RCP are from AFTER the debate. 2 of them. Not 4.
    Actually there has been enough polling to show a moderate swing to Clinton -

    A 4 point swing to Clinton via Morning Consult.
    A 3-4 point swing to Clinton via Echelon Insights.
    And a 6 point swing to Clinton via Rasmussen Reports.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...=2016-forecast

    The Rasmussen one isn't discussed here but I do remember that it was favoring Trump by 5 points yesterday and now its favoring Clinton by 1 and you can see it on the RCP website -
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...952.html#polls
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Actually there has been enough polling to show a moderate swing to Clinton -

    A 4 point swing to Clinton via Morning Consult.
    A 3-4 point swing to Clinton via Echelon Insights.
    And a 6 point swing to Clinton via Rasmussen Reports.

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...=2016-forecast

    The Rasmussen one isn't discussed here but I do remember that it was favoring Trump by 5 points yesterday and now its favoring Clinton by 1.
    Rasmussen uses Landline calls to gather data. This tells nothing except Old People are swing voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaserSharkDFB View Post
    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...ex_cid=rrpromo

    Clinton's gone from 55% to 63% in the last few days. Trump bombed Monday. And you're avoiding the question.
    All that does is make me question the site's credibility to swing numbers so drastically on very limited information. The PPP poll is the only general election poll that has been conducted and published on RCP post debate. In addition, PPP has been accused of liberal bias and credibility issues (by Nate Silver of all people). http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/1...n-the-business

    Maybe you're right...but too early to make a call in my opinion.
    Last edited by DocSavageFan; 2016-09-29 at 09:01 PM.

  7. #8887
    Quote Originally Posted by Paula Deen View Post
    Rasmussen uses Landline calls to gather data. This tells nothing except Old People are swing voters.
    It was a comparison of like vs like. So a Rasmussen poll prior to the debate compared to a Rasmussen poll post debate. That negates any bias due to being landline only.
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Just so we're clear, Page is an aggressive investor in the Russian energy market, and promotes others to do the same. Russia owns a majority share in the companies he's invested in. The sanctions levied on Russia for invading Ukraine are hurting his portfolio and he's admitted such openly. So, Page has very specific personal profit conflicts of interest, that happen to coincide with money coming to the Russian government.

    That's not a "distraction" as he put it. That's a provable conflict of interest.
    So if Trump gets elected, he will lift the sanctions, Putin will suck him off and Page will basically be openly receiving any and all sexual requests from Trump after he makes millions from his portfolio skyrocketing. Not really surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    All that does is make question the site's credibility. The PPP poll is the only general election poll that has been conducted and published on RCP post debate. In addition, PPP has been accused of liberal bias and credibility issues (by Nate Silver of all people). http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/1...n-the-business

    Maybe you're right...but too early to make a call in my opinion.
    Incorrect there have been 4 polls. Rasmussen, Morning Consult, Echelon Insights, and PPP.
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    The time between "A new post-debate poll, the Google poll, has us leading Hillary Clinton by two points nationwide"

    and "Google search engine was suppressing the bad news about Hillary Clinton"

    was...less than two seconds. He said them back to back.

    Trump's paranoid grows. He's actually afraid auto-correct is out to get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Incorrect there have been 4 polls. Rasmussen, Morning Consult, Echelon Insights, and PPP.
    General election polls post-debate? Please link.

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    Now there is a plan floating in his campaign to bring in Christie to portray Clinton in potential debate practice assuming of course Trump agrees to take part in debate practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocSavageFan View Post
    General election polls post-debate? Please link.
    Two are discussed here -
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...=2016-forecast

    You can see the Rasmussen one here and compare with the one taken a week ago -
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...952.html#polls
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    The time between "A new post-debate poll, the Google poll, has us leading Hillary Clinton by two points nationwide"

    and "Google search engine was suppressing the bad news about Hillary Clinton"

    was...less than two seconds. He said them back to back.

    Trump's paranoid grows. He's actually afraid auto-correct is out to get him.
    Why doesn't his ten year old son, who is so good with computers, protect us from the cyber? Well, never mind, I'm sure he doesn't want the cyber to know what he's planning.

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    People need to accept that Trump did not win that debate, rip the band aid off and demand he do better or he is doomed to repeat his failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaserSharkDFB View Post
    Why doesn't his ten year old son, who is so good with computers, protect us from the cyber? Well, never mind, I'm sure he doesn't want the cyber to know what he's planning.

  17. #8897
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    People need to accept that Trump did not win that debate, rip the band aid off and demand he do better or he is doomed to repeat his failure.
    I hope Donald doesn't accept it, so that he has no motivation to get good for the next one.
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    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

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    Now there is a plan floating in his campaign to bring in Christie to portray Clinton in potential debate practice assuming of course Trump agrees to take part in debate practice.
    Oh really - you are part of the campaign and can prove this or is this just typical made up shit by the left (as usual) that is attributed to "sources"?

    So hilarious to watch liberals flounder around without knowing their asses from a hole in the ground.

    The debates mean nothing - and neither do the polls. Trump is going to win in a landslide of epic proportions. Liberals are just too fucking stupid to face reality. Keep counting on the polls to prop up your idiocy and try looking at the next Trump rally where THOUSANDS show up (Melbourne, FL) and THOUSANDS more have to be turned away.

    We Fact-Checked Claim That People Turned Away From Trump's FL Rally Total Hillary's Rally Attendance

    Last edited by mmocc836e66a65; 2016-09-29 at 09:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Oh really - you are part of the campaign and can prove this or is this just typical made up shit by the left (as usual) that is attributed to "sources"?

    So hilarious to watch liberals flounder around without knowing their asses from a hole in the ground.

    The debates mean nothing - and neither do the polls. Trump is going to win in a landslide of epic proportions. Liberals are just too fucking stupid to face reality. Keep counting on the polls to prop up your idiocy and try looking at the next Trump rally where THOUSANDS show up (Melbourne, FL) and THOUSANDS more have to be turned away.

    We Fact-Checked Claim That People Turned Away From Trump's FL Rally Total Hillary's Rally Attendance

    Trump advisers weigh putting Christie in charge of debate prep
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politi...tie/index.html
    But you go ahead and remain delusional, your broken soul is mana for my life force.

    I'm not a liberal, I am an independent. How stupid are liberals again? Just checking...
    Last edited by DeadmanWalking; 2016-09-29 at 09:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Trump advisers weigh putting Christie in charge of debate prep
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/29/politi...tie/index.html
    But you go ahead and remain delusional, your broken soul is mana for my life force.
    Great... now I have an image of Christie dressed up as Hillary in mock debates with Trump.
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