Republican Election 2016 - Donald Trump Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Jessicka]

Whenever I visit, you never disappoint, MMO-Champ OT.

This is not sexual assault. This is attempted adultery, which carries no legal ramifications whatsoever. Based on what you quoted, if that was your play, it was really terrible.

You need to prove he is advocating criminal behavior, otherwise all you're doing is projecting your moral and social barometers and your beliefs onto the situation and assuming he was advocating for this behavior.

So, all I'm getting is that you guys and a large portion of the American nation is really pissed off over an old man exercising his first amendment rights and saying shit you don't like hearing, and that's at best. At worst, what you're basically saying is that because he said it, he was going to do it, which is saying that Trump committed thought crime. What a neat belief.

Ah, the old covert 'you don't agree with me, so you're an idiot'. Glad to see it's still a staple here; wouldn't want actual discourse where people are proven wrong via reasoned arguments and logical paradigms to happen.

No, the reason it's shifted to sexual assault is because American society is exquisitely stupid and either no longer understand the English language or is willfully ignoring etymology in favor of being fashionably offended. God forbid we stick to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights; no, we should ignore those because King Toupe was talking hyperbolically a decade ago and try to nail him for a potential sexual assault we think he might commit just because he talked about it once. Remember everyone, being a facist isn't bad if it means you're fighting for people being offended that others exercise their freedom of speech. Classy.

It is sexual assault. And he's not just condoning it, he's bragging about it, and he does so because he knows its wrong. He knows he's only getting away with it by intimidation because of his wealth and position. Intimidation and coercion are not consent.

It doesn't help anyone that its getting played down as anything but that. Worse, there was a major Sunday Newspaper referring to the woman in the tape as being "The women who could keep Trump out of the Whitehouse". That was the headline, and she'd done literally nothing, but it was like it was her fault?

[nicoleivy5]

Trump for the win!

[Cthulhu 2020]

No. Not at all. 'moron' works because there is a broad based societal agreement that calling someone a 'moron' is a direct attempt to be insulting (namely of someone's intellect), and thus an attempt to be rude.

'cuck' doesn't enjoy that because first, the vast majority of the English speaking human race have never heard the internet-sourced word. It is not in the lexicon of broadly accepted insults insults. Secondly, of those who have, only the alt-right use it as an insult and the rest of us just think it's this weird word that the alt-right uses to show they're alt-righty in opposition to those who aren't.

Really 'cuck' is more of an alt-right (not-so) secret handshake than anything else. alt-righters are the only ones who dish it out.

But the largest point is this: the fact that people on the alt right use it and can't engage in discourse like normal human beings just illustrates how pathologically detached from the norms of society and reality they've become. They can't even relate with their fellow man in how to insult them. That's pretty far gone, indeed!

If I wanted to insult an alt-righter openly, I'd call them a "cryptofascist piece of shit" or something. Because it's broadly accepted that being a "fascist" is ya know, a bad thing, and a "piece of shit" is a common insult. By contrast 'cuck'. Ok? O_o If they're going to insult somebody, they have to actually feel insulted.

@Skroe

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[Breccia]

It doesn't help anyone that its getting played down as anything but that. Worse, there was a major Sunday Newspaper referring to the woman in the tape as being "The women who could keep Trump out of the Whitehouse". That was the headline, and she'd done literally nothing, but it was like it was her fault?

When you're dug that deeply into delusion, you'll look for anything to blame but you. Hey, what are the first two of the five stages of grief? Denial and anger, right? I wonder what Trump has to bargain with...

[Slybak]

'cuck' is only a word valid in the the the dark corners of the internet that take buffoons like Milo seriously.

There is some irony in the fact that a deluded legion of people who have a bizzare and creepy fixation on cuckoldry are supporting a candidate for President who is not only an adulterer himself but brags about trying to have sex with married women. Just as there is irony in the fact that this same candidate who began his campaign by calling immigrants "rapists" is himself someone who has rather barbaric views on sexual consent.

[zenkai]

It is sexual assault. And he's not just condoning it, he's bragging about it, and he does so because he knows its wrong. He knows he's only getting away with it by intimidation because of his wealth and position. Intimidation and coercion are not consent.

It doesn't help anyone that its getting played down as anything but that. Worse, there was a major Sunday Newspaper referring to the woman in the tape as being "The women who could keep Trump out of the Whitehouse". That was the headline, and she'd done literally nothing, but it was like it was her fault?

You read it as, was it her fault, and I read it as, because of what he did to her it could cause him to lose the Whitehouse. He should have ran on the Democrat ticket, they not only tolerate Presidents who sexually assault women, they celebrate them.

[Breccia]

Okay, I honestly didn't expect to see this, because I didn't think it was legal/possible. And yet, here we are.

Some of Trump's campaign donors are asking for their money back.

Obviously these are just a couple of people who probably won't get a refund, but the fact that they're even asking is telling. Also funny.

However, the article does go on to suggest that this is a symptom of the larger overall issue. "Aides at four of the five super PACs backing Trump have repeatedly told NBC News that fundraising for Trump is a struggle. "

[Skroe]

@Skroe

Relevant

This is amazing, rofl.



Remember 'YOLO!' (who doesn't). I loved when it was translated as "Carpe Diem for Stupid People".

We need something like for 'cuck'

[Macaquerie]

You read it as, was it her fault, and I read it as, because of what he did to her it could cause him to lose the Whitehouse. He should have ran on the Democrat ticket, they not only tolerate Presidents who sexually assault women, they celebrate them.

Yes, he should have ran as a Democrat, since he would've just gotten blown out in the primary instead of sticking around and embarrassing the country every time he opens his mouth for the last year and a half.

[zenkai]

Yes, he should have ran as a Democrat, since he would've just gotten blown out in the primary instead of sticking around and embarrassing the country every time he opens his mouth for the last year and a half.

He wouldn't have got blown out he would have been treated like Sanders and and had the DNC plotting against him.

[Slybak]

Trump might lose Utah.

Utah.

[Macaquerie]

He wouldn't have got blown out he would have been treated like Sanders and and had the DNC plotting against him.

You really think that Clinton would have had to resort to DNC shenanigans to beat Trump in a Democratic primary?

[Kasierith]

Trump might lose Utah.

Utah.

Not exactly surprising. Heavy Mormon country is pretty socially conservative, and being lackadaisical about adultery is going to be pretty negative there. And ultimately that traditional conservatism is what's held Utah red for so long.

And ultimately, it's an illustration about how Trump's strategy to go after Clinton is completely pointless. The people who eat it up are the hardcore alt right people who would obey Trump if he told them to jump off a cliff. This is damaging to the traditional, social conservatives who were with him only as long as he had an R on his name, and in traditional social conservatism Clinton was the victim of an adulterous spouse and her outrage at his partners fully justified. His damage control is addressed at his base, not at the damage itself, which is why his little pre-debate stunt was so horrendously useless that I almost found myself laughing, both at him and the people who thought it made a strong point.

[Breccia]

Trump might lose Utah.

Utah.

And a major newspaper also endorsed Clinton today. In Utah. I guess you can only take so many swings at family values and/or Mitt Romney before they say "That's enough."

[zenkai]

You really think that Clinton would have had to resort to DNC shenanigans to beat Trump in a Democratic primary?

Nope, just Bernie. I was mostly poking fun at the DNC but I think you think we're having a serious conversation.

[Trump]

And ultimately, it's an illustration about how Trump's strategy to go after Clinton is completely pointless. The people who eat it up are the hardcore alt right people who would obey Trump if he told them to jump off a cliff.

Last night on CNN, Anderson Cooper had Randi Kaye interview 10 women on the Trump tape and Hillary Clinton. All 10 women said the tape didn't matter one but and that Hillary Clinton was a rape enabler.

The only people that would support and vote for Hillary Clinton, at this point, are people that hate the USA and want to see it destroyed.

[DeadmanWalking]

You really think that Clinton would have had to resort to DNC shenanigans to beat Trump in a Democratic primary?

Right now the Reps wish they had the same system to chose their candidate that the Democrats had, which was a system created to keep a pro-vietnam candidate from running as president for a party whose policy had become to get out of Vietnam. The delegate system is created so a cult of personality that doesn't share the parties policies can't take the parties only nomination just because they have a lot of supporters. Sound familiar?

The party doesn't exist for the voters, the party exists for the policies of the party and the voters decide if they like the policies of the party, if they don't then the party doesn't exist for long or has 0 footprint in the American democracy much like the American Communist Party.

The Republican party policy is lower taxes to promote business, strong and larger military, spread democracy, small government, no hand outs, trickle down economics, no abortion, pro-guns and conservatives add in living according to the bible's religious tenents. If they have a candidate that is a celebrity who doesn't know the policies of the party it not only removes the identity of the party should they win the office but it also increases the chances that people who do adhere to the party policy could decide they don't like him when it is voting time.

The party can and will change to suit the needs of the party but the Candidate is suppose to represent the party and you decide if you like the policies of the party by voting. Donald's cult of personality flies directly in the face of the party he is suppose to represent and had they the system the democrats had they would of had a stronger candidate.

[Slybak]

Last night on CNN, Anderson Cooper had Randi Kaye interview 10 women on the Trump tape and Hillary Clinton. All 10 women said the tape didn't matter one but and that Hillary Clinton was a rape enabler.

"10 Trump supporters turn out to be Trump supporters. We'll have more on this shocking revelation, plus the latest in sports and the weather, on Channel 4 Eyewitness News tonight at 11."

[Orlong]

No, no, he doesn't "think it's okay". That was downright bragging. Plus, adultery.

Still not seeing any outrage about the clip filmed by CNN on a 2008 campaign plane of Obama walking around flaunting his bner in front of a bunch of women while they all giggle.

Guess its only inappropriate if Trump makes a couple comments 15 years ago at a private party (not even actually doing anything other than talking) but nothing is even said about the man who became our president nd his actual sexual harassment:

[Felya]

The only people that would support and vote for Hillary Clinton, at this point, are people that hate the USA and want to see it destroyed.

The only people on this forum that willingly admit to supporting Trump, are named Trump.