Republican Election 2016 - Donald Trump Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Reeve]

Part of me is hoping Dump is not going to do his own news network should he loose, but also posdibly start his own political party. This is actually the best way to route out all the mongrel trash that has infested the Republicans, and then true conservatives can reclaim the Repub party...

Nope, he's starting his own TV network.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/18/us...hner.html?_r=0

...though mind you, Ted Cruz is almost just as deplorable as Dump and he would prolly stay with the Repubs...

Ted Cruz may be as deplorable as Trump, but he's not as unpredictable. I don't think he lacks the basic respect for our institutions and constitution that Trump does. I don't see Cruz, for example, threatening to imprison his political opponents, or trying to loosen libel laws so that he can sue media outlets that disagree with him. I don't see him talking about blowing other nations' vessels out of the water, or using nuclear weapons in otherwise conventional wars. I don't see him as being as thin skinned or ragey as Trump.

Awful person? Yes. I was actually having a moonlight picnic with a lovely girl last night in a park across the street from Cruz's condominium, and we were joking that he was probably watching us with binoculars. But I don't think he's as actively dangerous as Donald Trump.

[Traveler Voltin]

Maybe one's thought process goes like this:
Link 1 - her personal website, too biased.
Link 2 - general information, irrelevant.
Link 3 - Wiki, not trustworthy.
...
...
"Guys, I haven't seen Hillary's policies anywhere!"


Keyword "casually".

casually can mean different things.
more news at 2.

[Dextroden]

I cannot speak for other people, I always thought the ACA was dumb.

We have been, we have been pushing for Green Energy/Jobs, and moving away from Coal under Obama. Trump wants to reverse that. He has said so in his speeches.

He also wants to back out from the Paris Agreement.

Like I said, my dislike of Trump has to do with his policies, not how I feel about him personally... which is also not really good.

Too bad that isn't the party position. Month after month. "The ACA is the best thing for this country."

Get your facts in line.

[Reeve]

Creating a media network that splinters people is not unifying the party. The alt-right are not tea party. Tea Party were more about taxes and economic issues, the alt-right is more about xenophobia.

There's some truth to that, but I think there's more overlap in that Tea Party/Alt Right Venn Diagram than you're making out.

[Dextroden]

There's some truth to that, but I think there's more overlap in that Tea Party/Alt Right Venn Diagram than you're making out.

It's hilarious to me. I remember when the tea party was just a bunch of racist idiots in a Splinter group when they started. Now, they are a legitimate group, apparently.

[Deleted]

Is flat out factually untrue. Her gender has played a relatively minor role in her campaign overall, especially recently, and hasn't even really come up during the debates. Her gender has never been a central messaging point to her campaign, it's always been a supporting point brought out when relevant/topical. Her time is overwhelmingly spent talking about issues and policies.

If you actually believe that I now understand why you would call me dangerous.

Wanna know how far gone you Trumpkins are?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016...nd-to-the-u-s/

And btw, since you want to quote some bullshit poll about "Trumpkins" believing in Russia, here is a nice little video of "Hilliaryites" that will adamantly vote for Hillary yet cannot name one fucking accomplishment of her's that would actually make them vote for her.




And this one is always a peach! (and you folks have to audacity to call Trump supporters dangerous? LOL!)

[Garnier Fructis]

no. i dont.
mostly yahoo and for specific things i use google.

That's your problem. You can't say that the news isn't covering it if you aren't actually looking at news.

[Edge-]

yeah i was exaggerating, to a point. I really do not care what her policies are ( mind you i know what they are) when she thinks her vagina is a qualification.

She doesn't, but there is absolutely political value in highlighting the historic nature of her candidacy and playing to identities/issues is a longstanding tradition in US elections.

She doesn't think her vagina is a qualification, but she sure thinks reminding folks she has one will help her win, especially amongst female voters.

[Dextroden]

I did not decide they have to vote for Hillary. They can vote for whoever they want. I am voting for ideas that I think will help our economy and the world. Those ideas more closely align with Clinton, if my choice is Clinton or Trump.

And that is not based on Personality, but their stated ideas/policy.

You decided they just wanted to fuck things up. Perhaps they actually realized Clinton really isn't in their best interest and tried to get a quality leader in. But nah.

Meanwhile, you unironically say the Republican Party is going to die (This time) while ignoring the unrest in your own square. It's honestly a perfect display. "I don't know why they are complaining. I wish they understood why they are wrong."

[Saucexorzski]

If you actually believe that I now understand why you would call me dangerous.



And btw, since you want to quote some bullshit poll about "Trumpkins" believing in Russia, here is a nice little video of "Hilliaryites" that will adamantly vote for Hillary yet cannot name one fucking accomplishment of her's that would actually make them vote for her.




And this one is always a peach! (and you folks have to audacity to call Trump supporters dangerous? LOL!)

i do not think edited random interview videos are credible proof of what folks think. If it was raw video id be more apt to take it seriously.

[Reeve]

Too bad that isn't the party position. Month after month. "The ACA is the best thing for this country."

Get your facts in line.

The ACA is clearly better than what came before, but there are also better solutions than the ACA.

Also, the current position of Hillary Clinton is that some parts of the ACA have been very good, but that we should adjust the other parts to continue to improve it.

[Dextroden]

I am not a democrat... I am a left libertarian. The Democrats are the pragmatic choice in this political atmosphere. If Skroe's version of Republicans actually come to fruition, and they match my libertarian ideals, I will vote for that type of Republican, as likely as I would for the left leaning ideas of the Democratic party.

But if you compare the current GOP platform to teh current Democratic Platform, there is nothing libertarian or liberal about the republican candidates.

The democrats tend to have the liberal covered... and are spotty on libertarian ideals.

If pragmatism was something actually practiced, Bernie or Bust would have never spawned. Same with the tea party.

[Felya]

i do not think edited random interview videos are credible proof of what folks think. If it was raw video id be more apt to take it seriously.

Why take it seriously even then? When did "Billy on the street" become anything other than a joke? All it does is show complete lack of understanding of what polling is.

[Deleted]

i do not think edited random interview videos are credible proof of what folks think. If it was raw video id be more apt to take it seriously.

Ya, they are about as reliable as "polls" conducted by biased sources.

[Felya]

If pragmatism was something actually practiced, Bernie or Bust would have never spawned. Same with the tea party.

Yes, which is why he supports Hillary, instead of Trump. The fact that he practices pragmatism, isn't negated by tea party, Trump or Bernie.

[Reeve]

Ya, they are about as reliable as "polls" conducted by biased sources.

Which polls are you referring to?

[Dextroden]

The ACA is clearly better than what came before, but there are also better solutions than the ACA.

Also, the current position of Hillary Clinton is that some parts of the ACA have been very good, but that we should adjust the other parts to continue to improve it.

No one was saying, or agreeing with the idea, that it needed to be changed in anyway for a good long while. Unless, you were a filthy Republican that wanted it gone for their nonexistent idea.

Why the sudden change?

[alexw]

The Alt-Right was always going to view Hillary as a criminal. It's in part to delgitimize her. It's hardly different than the Birtherism that Trump also encouraged with respect to Obama.

The difference is, Trumps positions are Trumps positions, and they are un-American. There is no even-stevens here. He has actually said these, things, taken these positions and doubled down on them.

The reference to Hitler is not to put Trump on the level of Hitler but to describe how societies are able to handle their extremist elements. Adolf Hitler was Weimar Germany's. Donald Trump is ours. In France, Le Pen, back in the mid 2000s when he made the 2nd round of voting for President, was theirs.

You know what the French did? The Socialists united with the UMP (Conservative) to vote against Le Pen. Country first. In the US, whatever you think of Hillary Clinton and American liberalism in general, Donald Trump and his followers represent a far more mortal threat. We must follow their example, united and defend our country against the likes of them.

Going back to the Trump = Hitler comparison, the one thing that the left and right didn't do to prevent Hitler's rise was unite against him. The political sphere fractured and the disparate elements fought against each other as much as they fought against Hitler. That enabled him to snake through the center and turn Germany into a fascist dictatorship. The center-right thought they could use him to advance their own agenda against the political left so they didn't act and instead backed him (which parallels the Pence/Priebus wing of the republican party (i.e. the majority of it)). The far left, the communists, thought Hitler would be so dire that after watching the country burn for a year or two they'd win the next major election in a landslide, so they didn't act (which parallels some Bernie supporters including some on these boards). The end result being that the only political force to truly oppose Hitler was the center-left, and that simply wasn't enough to stop him. Hitler took power and the center-left ended up paying for that opposition, they were amongst the first "undesirables" that Hitler sent to his extermination camps and firing squads.

[Traveler Voltin]

That's your problem. You can't say that the news isn't covering it if you aren't actually looking at news.

of course its being covered.
i just havent been seeing it when i casually look everyday.

big bloody difference.

[AndaliteBandit]

Ya, they are about as reliable as "polls" conducted by biased sources.

Does this include the poll by Breitbart with the same results?