Democratic Election 2016 - Hillary Clinton Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Moralgy]

Unlikely. Conspiracy theory sites aren't allowed here, which is why they're dancing around rather than just linking it.

Ohhhh, it is a conspiracy website with the proof. Nothing really substantial just the "think about it enough and it makes sense" kind of stuff.

[Wells]

I'm supposed to be impressed with her endorsement of a do-nothing alphabet agency? Exactly what has she effectively done to address pay day loan regulations? Note, that while pay day loan agencies are greedy scumbag organizations the likes of which Clinton loves to take money from, these are not the mega-corporations that Clinton usually gets billion dollar checks from for giving speeches, so their quid pro quo isn't as significant.

You're pretty intentionally constructing a no-win scenario here. Any counter evidence of your claim can safely be dismissed as not counting.

[Thepersona]

Google is available 24/7 I believe.

So you didnt give a source and instead went to the typical 'google it by yourself'
I see a pattern here

[Breccia]

Maybe one day I'll get this link to who all Hillary has killed.

Don't bother. It's been debunked multiple times on this thread and others. Besides, you know the rule. If someone makes a wild accusation and doesn't back it up with at least one realistic source, it's not your fault if you laugh it off. If they wanted to be taken seriously, they'd have given you reason to.

[Daerio]

You're pretty intentionally constructing a no-win scenario here. Any counter evidence of your claim can safely be dismissed as not counting.

No, I simply want concrete proof of what you claim to be her platform stances.

I know she's a lying whore willing to say or promise whatever she thinks it will take to get elected.

The problem is, will she actually do what she says? History indicates not. She can say whatever the fuck she wants about CFPB and payday loans, but when she doesn't do anything to address regulate or address the issue and meanwhile accepting untold sums of money from the people she's supposedly "coming down hard on," that's a ruse only a fool would fall for.

But it would seem there's no shortage of fools.

Remember 15$ minimum wage from just around the corner? I do, and I guess my memory is a little longer than any Clinton supporters.

[Wells]

No, I simply want concrete proof of what you claim to be her platform stances.

You mean like....her website? Where her platform is?

The problem is, will she actually do what she says? History indicates not.

Last time she was an elected official she was one of the most liberal senators in the Senate, so I'm not sure what history you're talking about.

[Daerio]

You mean like....her website? Where her platform is?

Thank god we can always believe what politicians post on websites.

[GennGreymane]

Thank god we can always believe what politicians post on websites.

Will trump really make America great again?

[Daerio]

Will trump really make America great again?

Must be true if it's on his website.

[GennGreymane]

Must be true if it's on his website.

my goodness! You are correct!

[Wells]

Thank god we can always believe what politicians post on websites.

You're the one that asked for proof of her platform. That's where her platform is.

Notice you chose to just ignore her liberal record tho.

[Breccia]

Remember 15$ minimum wage from just around the corner?

Remember NO minimum wage from even more recently than that? And then the reversal on that even more recently than that?

Are you really that concerned that Clinton won't do what she says, and instead ready to back a candidate who won't even say what he says? Hasn't Trump proved far less reliable, recently, on this very issue? You have conjecture about what she might do. I have complete contradiction. He can't possibly do both at once. Which is really the ruse only a fool would fall for?

[Daerio]

Trump being a shitty candidate doesn't make Clinton a good one; I feel like this has been said before.

[Captain N]

Trump being a shitty candidate doesn't make Clinton a good one; I feel like this has been said before.

Yet you've spent page after page making shit up without evidence about how terrible Clinton is and we've yet to see you attack Trump once. Is this what you do? Make stuff up until enough people call you out on it and then resort to "Well I don't like him either" garbage?

[Daerio]

Yet you've spent page after page making shit up without evidence about how terrible Clinton is and we've yet to see you attack Trump once. Is this what you do? Make stuff up until enough people call you out on it and then resort to "Well I don't like him either" garbage?

I fail to understand how an attack on Trump is somehow a defense of Clinton; I simply disarmed your irrelevant red herring before you got started on it.

[Endus]

Trump being a shitty candidate doesn't make Clinton a good one; I feel like this has been said before.

Given where we're at in the election cycle, we can't add more candidates. Of those running, if Clinton is the "least bad", then that's who you should be supporting. Hell, I've been pretty clear multiple times that I think she's one of the least satisfying options the DNC could've gone with; I would've preferred to see Sanders, or Warren, or Biden, or a host of others take the candidacy instead. But they didn't. They either didn't want to run at all, or did and lost to Clinton.

So we make the best of it. If "the best of it" involves voting Clinton because Trump is so utterly unacceptable, then so be it. It's not even just Democrats saying this. There are long-time Republican politicians who've stated they'll be voting for Clinton for exactly this reason.

Going with a magical-fantasy option of a perfect candidate is not a reasonable position.

[Daerio]

Going with a magical-fantasy option of a perfect candidate is not a reasonable position.

Eh, if I do decide to leave the house to vote it certainly won't be for the two main party candidates, and with less than 10% of the voting population favoring either Trump or Clinton combined, I feel pretty comfortable in the vast majority on this issue.

The fantasy is that there are only two options, especially being that those two options hold so very few actual votes.

[Endus]

Eh, if I do decide to leave the house to vote it certainly won't be for the two main party candidates, and with less than 10% of the voting population favoring either Trump or Clinton combined, I feel pretty comfortable in the vast majority on this issue.

The fantasy is that there are only two options, especially being that those two options hold so very few actual votes.

In most states, there will be exactly four, and I was including Jill Stein and Gary Johnson in my evaluation.

[Daerio]

In most states, there will be exactly four, and I was including Jill Stein and Gary Johnson in my evaluation.

Right, that's obviously what I meant.

[Endus]

Right, that's obviously what I meant.

What else could you mean?

If someone's not on the ballot, then you can't vote them in.