Democratic Election 2016 - Hillary Clinton Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Orbitus]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...precedented-s/

Pretty big get for Hillary, she was just endorsed by George H.W. Bush

When even your own party won't vote for you, then there is a problem.

[Venant]

When even your own party won't vote for you, then there is a problem.

My my, such a lovely highway of death you have there

[Orbitus]

My my, such a lovely highway of death you have there

What the hell are you talking about? Trump is so partisan, that economists are saying he will destroy the economy. The generals and security agencies say that they aren't voting for him because of his rhetoric and unstable talk. I mean, when even the last Republican candidate and president won't vote for you or even come to the convention, you have fucking problems.

[Orlong]

Nope, if they were going to recommend indictment they would have already done so. But they didn't.

Trump supporters really need to get off that train already, because it's not going to leave the station.

Once Trump becomes president HIS Attorney General will lock her up.. The worst thing they couldve done was not indict her if they wanted to protect her, because if they indicted her with a Pro Hillary administration, they couldve used their smoke and mirrors to find her not guilty, and then she couldnt be tried by a Republican administration under the double jeopardy clause. I cant wait to see her wearing an orange jumpsuit

[zenkai]

Nope. I read it just fine. You are notorious for sidestepping questions and trying to spin things your way.

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Considering those Late Night comedy shows are often more correct than Breitbart, Fox News, Drudge and Rush Limbaugh. Then yeah, I will take the comedy shows over those any fucking day.

I don't think you understand what side stepping is, so I would refrain from ever using it until you figure it out.

[Spectral]

Syrians are on the extra scrutiny track. Their experience won't be the same as someone from Generic Shithole A.

My main irritation with immigration policies is that Generic Shithole A immigrants are generally in within a couple years while I have incredibly productive, educated friends from reasonably nice countries that can't get citizenship. This is a really stupid plan if we care at all about whether the people immigrating make the nation better (although I acknowledge that is a secondary or lower goal for many people).

[DocSavageFan]

Hillary seems to have difficulty with stairs for some reason. Here she is yesterday after her speech at Temple University.

[jakeic]

Hillary seems to have difficulty with stairs for some reason. Here she is yesterday after her speech at Temple University.

Dynamite drop in. Don't vote for Hillary because stairs!

[GennGreymane]

Clinton hasn't won over millennials. And no, sexism isn't to blame
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-isnt-to-blame

Hillary Clinton is having a harder time beating Donald Trump than she bargained for. According to a recent poll, a staggering 44% of millennials say they’ll be voting for either Green party candidate Jill Stein or Libertarian Gary Johnson. The chief reason for Clinton’s dip in these polls is not – as Barack Obama claimed on Sunday – that she’s a woman (though sexism does have a lot to answer for). It’s because Clinton has assumed a third of the electorate – millennials – would vote for her out of fear of her opponent.

Simply put, we want more.

Millennials are the generation that has occupied Wall Street, shut down bridges for black lives and chained ourselves to the White House fence to stop the Keystone XL pipeline. Disillusioned by Obama’s embrace of war and austerity alike – especially after knocking on doors to get him elected – we know better than to put blind faith in any candidate for the Oval Office.

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What Clinton can do now is prove that she’s listening. Doing so could bear fruit in the polls, but only if she shows she’s willing to part ways with her billionaire friends and push for policies that are in line with what millennials really want.

Since the Democratic national convention, Clinton and Trump have peddled their own politics of fear. Hers: of an ascendant far-right. His: of immigrants and the prospect of a truly multi-racial democracy. If Bernie Sanders’ primary campaign showed anything, though, it’s that young Americans are eager to vote for something – not against it.

Laying out plans for single-payer healthcare and a $15 minimum wage, Sanders beat Clinton among millennials in each one of the 27 states where they faced off in the primaries. And he might still be the most popular politician in the US today.

At a time when Americans across the political spectrum are turning against the status quo, Clinton seems to be embracing it. She spent weeks in August wooing millionaire donors in Silicon Valley and Martha’s Vineyard, and has chased endorsements from Bush-era official and war criminals like Henry Kissinger. It’s out of frustration that millennials will register protest votes, not ignorance.

Make no mistake: a vote for either Jill Stein or Gary Johnson in a swing state is a vote for Trump, and could land the US in a situation more dangerous and unstable than any it has known yet. Clinton is this country’s best hope right now. Especially if we want to avoid a future defined by hostility towards immigrants and people of color, the near certainty of catastrophic global warming and a disastrous economic plan ripped straight from the Tea Party’s playbook.

But making sure that painful, hate-filled future never comes to pass is up to the Clinton campaign now, and its ability to make an earnest and heartfelt appeal to the future of the Democratic party.

So what is it that millennials actually want? Around 70% favor wealth redistribution, one Gallup poll found, and many are eager to avoid six-figure debt for things like education and routine visits to the doctor’s office. The Movement for Black Lives released a detailed policy agenda this summer with plenty of ideas for senior Clinton staffers, and round-the-clock protests against the Dakota Access pipeline should give them a sense for where young Americans stand on new fossil fuel infrastructure and violations of indigenous rights.

For the most progressive and diverse generation in history, Trump represents virtually everything our generation is against. Clinton represents everything that hasn’t worked for us. Her embrace of politics as usual these last few months could cost her the election, putting Trump in the White House and emboldening his most dangerous supporters. Either way, Trumpism will grow so long as elites are setting the political agenda.

Millennial-led movements, meanwhile, are showing a way forward, free of fear-mongering and full of hopeful visions for a fairer future. If defeating Trump means voting for Clinton – and it does – defeating the toxic ideology that surrounds him means she needs to take these movements’ advice seriously.

[Edge-]

Once Trump becomes president HIS Attorney General will lock her up.

You realize that's not how the law works, right?

The worst thing they couldve done was not indict her if they wanted to protect her, because if they indicted her with a Pro Hillary administration, they couldve used their smoke and mirrors to find her not guilty, and then she couldnt be tried by a Republican administration under the double jeopardy clause. I cant wait to see her wearing an orange jumpsuit

Again, you realize that this is not how law works, right?

Hillary seems to have difficulty with stairs for some reason. Here she is yesterday after her speech at Temple University.

This just in - woman old enough to be a grandmother is offered a hand by a gentleman while going up a few stairs and takes it. EVERYBODY PANIC!

[DevilsAdvocate]

Clinton hasn't won over millennials. And no, sexism isn't to blame
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-isnt-to-blame

Don't need commentary from some liberal British paper cherry-picking a poll. Millennials certainly didn't make a fucking difference in the Brexit vote, where if they had actually turned out to vote, they could've stopped the stupidity of old white people.

Millenials are also in a period of life where they will change a lot as they assume new responsibilities. They will remain socially more liberal than old people but their economic views will become more centrist and diverse as they grow older.

On those 2 points, it is stupid for Clinton to appeal to them. She is better off appealing to swing voters such as college-educated whites who are abandoning Trump in Droves.

Every year, we always hear about how the young vote will change everything.

In every case that is wrong as Brexit painfully proved, the young idiots stood by as older people turned up at the polls. Now this generalization isn't 100% fair since over 50% did turn out but they didn't turn out at the rate everybody else did which proves true election after election.

Hillary will win simply because everybody with a brain is scared to death of Trump and Trump didn't hide his outright racism like the Brexiters did.

[Daerio]

You realize that's not how the law works, right?

Where's your proof?

That's how law has worked in this country for a long time. The Attorney General is a political office appointed by politicians. What the fuck do those guys know about how the law works? They know about subverting the law, certainly.

[DocSavageFan]

Dynamite drop in. Don't vote for Hillary because stairs!

Healthy 68 year-olds shouldn't have such difficulty with stairs....just saying.

[NED funded]

I just heard the most stupid conspiracy theory. It basically states that Hillary faked an entire rally.

[Edge-]

Where's your proof?

That's how law has worked in this country for a long time. The Attorney General is a political office appointed by politicians. What the fuck do those guys know about how the law works? They know about subverting the law, certainly.

The FBI has already investigated and already not recommended indictment because they believe there's little chance of any prosecution succeeding. They've done their part.

Yeah, a GOP administration could try to trot out the dog and pony show, but based on the FBI investigation it would be incredibly difficult to prove any kind of guilt on her part. It would simply be another politically motivated attack against Clinton a la Benghazi, and would probably waste as much time and money. And just like Benghazi, Republicans would blame Hillary for all the time and money wasted, not themselves for engaging in an idiotic witch hunt.

[Daerio]

The FBI has already investigated and already not recommended indictment because they believe there's little chance of any prosecution succeeding. They've done their part.

Yeah, a GOP administration could try to trot out the dog and pony show, but based on the FBI investigation it would be incredibly difficult to prove any kind of guilt on her part. It would simply be another politically motivated attack against Clinton a la Benghazi, and would probably waste as much time and money. And just like Benghazi, Republicans would blame Hillary for all the time and money wasted, not themselves for engaging in an idiotic witch hunt.

So you admit our system of justice is a completely political farce, but you lambaste another poster about "how the law works." Got it.

And I'm sure at the same time, use the fact that Clinton isn't in jail as proof of her innocence.

[Edge-]

Where's your proof?

That's how law has worked in this country for a long time. The Attorney General is a political office appointed by politicians. What the fuck do those guys know about how the law works? They know about subverting the law, certainly.

The FBI has already investigated and already not recommended indictment because they believe there's little chance of any prosecution succeeding. They've done their part.

Yeah, a GOP administration could try to trot out the dog and pony show, but based on the FBI investigation it would be incredibly difficult to prove any kind of guilt on her part. It would simply be another politically motivated attack against Clinton a la Benghazi, and would probably waste as much time and money. And just like Benghazi, Republicans would blame Hillary for all the time and money wasted, not themselves for engaging in an idiotic witch hunt.

Healthy 68 year-olds shouldn't have difficulty with stairs....just saying.

Have you ever offered your arm to your grandmother/mother when going up a few steps without a rail?

I just heard the most stupid conspiracy theory. It basically states that Hillary faked an entire rally.

Don't worry, James Woods probably has a Getty stock photo of it that he'll be tweeting about shortly.

So you admit our system of justice is a completely political farce, but you lambaste another poster about "how the law works." Got it.

...no? The FBI investigated, they did their job, they didn't recommend indictment.

The only people still salty over this are the folks who can't conceive of the fact that she's not guilty, so ignore the reality of the results of the FBI investigation and substitute their own, "BUT SURELY SHE'S STILL SECRETLY GUILTY!" conspiracies.

You didn't get her on Benghazi, no matter how hard the GOP tried, but damnit they'll surely get her on the emails!

[DocSavageFan]

This just in - woman old enough to be a grandmother is offered a hand by a gentleman while going up a few stairs and takes it. EVERYBODY PANIC!

No panic here...such saying it's curious given her previous episodes.

[Edge-]

No panic here...such saying it's curious given her previous episodes.

It's not, though. That's the thing.

It's conspiracy theorists who are SURE that Hillary has some fatal/degenerative disease throwing their arms up in the air and flailing about at the slightest hint of anything that backs up that notion, no matter how irrelevant it is.

[Captain N]

It's not, though. That's the thing.

It's conspiracy theorists who are SURE that Hillary has some fatal/degenerative disease throwing their arms up in the air and flailing about at the slightest hint of anything that backs up that notion, no matter how irrelevant it is.

But she couldn't walk up stairs!!

I would love to take a few people here to work with me one day. Have them do all the work of a Conductor then climb back on the locomotive without once complaining about it. Hell I'd like to see any of them just make that climb without grunting or moaning at all....

I can only imagine the toll it takes on anyone of any age's body to do the campaigning that Clinton is doing. But like you said they'll find anything they possibly can to convince their followers she's dying.