Democratic Election 2016 - Hillary Clinton Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Theodarzna]

again, this was in february...

Yes, before she took up these issues under pressure. To me this reveals the real Hillary Clinton. It raises questions, does she actually intend to follow through with these new found policy ideas she once vilified earlier?

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Keep it up Dumpsters! Your cowardice is showing! All you can do is nitpick a nearly year-old recording?

Your lord n master is apparently having nightmares and twitting at 3am cuz he can't sleep over a damn beauty queen he made fun of a decade ago, and is so mentally insecure he has to attack her and clintons husband over a distance cuz he can't attack her or her policies.

In short, your damn ship is on fire and sinking, and you're wasting time acusing anybody but yourselves... Whatever distracts you from your mistake in voting a deranged orangutang for president.

Have I told anyone to vote for Trump?

[Thepersona]

Yes, before she took up these issues under pressure. To me this reveals the real Hillary Clinton. It raises questions, does she actually intend to follow through with these new found policy ideas she once vilified earlier?

No it doesnt. It reveals the primary sentiment for Hillary, before Bernie pressured her (successfully) to move in some stances in order to reach Sander's base. Bernie Sanders move was a masterful one. He left an imprint on the current Democratic party, that will outlast him for the years to come, something that wouldnt've happened if he remained an independent
we call it realpolitik, or pragmatism

[Theodarzna]

No it doesnt. It reveals the primary sentiment for Hillary, before Bernie pressured her (successfully) to move in some stances in order to reach Sander's base. Bernie Sanders move was a masterful one. He left an imprint on the current Democratic party, that will outlast him for the years to come, something that wouldnt've happened if he remained an independent
we call it realpolitik, or pragmatism

Is it pragmatism to lie to people? The question is can we trust her stance?

[Thepersona]

Is it pragmatism to lie to people? The question is can we trust her stance?

you're doing an ex-ante judgement
and even if you can't trust her (and that's how you feel about Hillary), the other alternative (and i mean, the other alternative with a real shot of getting the white house) will put the progressive ideals back by a generation or two, while effectively tanking any effort to do anything about the climate, thus putting in danger the entire existence of life on this planet.
Bernie or bust (or that sort of people) sicken me. you have to put your feet on the floor. Or as other poster said, "idealism alone get you killed"
I say to those people, For one time in their lives look at the bigger picture. The paris deal is too f*cking important for our race to let it get destroyed

[NED funded]

It also implies her recent Sanders changes in policy are likely not deeply felt, nor to be upheld.

Well yeah. Anyone expecting a 15$ minimum wage is very naive to say the least.

[Cybran]

Your lord n master is apparently having nightmares and twitting at 3am cuz he can't sleep over a damn beauty queen he made fun of a decade ago, and is so mentally insecure he has to attack her and clintons husband over a distance cuz he can't attack her or her policies.

He doesn't have to attack her. She is doing a good job shedding voters herself. She called the BernOuts #basementdwellers and her daughter is holding speeches telling people she will be hard on Marijuana. This will lose what little youth support she had left.

The only one here who is rambling and losing sleep seems to be you.

[Thepersona]

He doesn't have to attack her. She is doing a good job shedding voters herself. She called the BernOuts #basementdwellers and her daughter is holding speeches telling people she will be hard on Marijuana. This will lose what little youth support she had left.

The only one here who is rambling and losing sleep seems to be you.

Again, did you f*cking read what she said (and i cannot say this enough, it was on february)

"Some are new to politics completely. They’re children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parents’ basement," she said. "They feel they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don’t see much of a future."
Clinton added: "If you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn’t pay a lot, and doesn’t have some other ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe, just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing."
"I think we all should be really understanding of that," Clinton said.

[Theodarzna]

you're doing an ex-ante judgement
and even if you can't trust her (and that's how you feel about Hillary), the other alternative (and i mean, the other alternative with a real shot of getting the white house) will put the progressive ideals back by a generation or two, while effectively tanking any effort to do anything about the climate, thus putting in danger the entire existence of life on this planet.
Bernie or bust (or that sort of people) sicken me. you have to put your feet on the floor. Or as other poster said, "idealism alone get you killed"
I say to those people, For one time in their lives look at the bigger picture. The paris deal is too f*cking important for our race to let it get destroyed

Being a loyal voter is a quick way to be taken for granted. If Hillary know's you'll vote for her no matter what, she doesn't have to do anything.

[Garnier Fructis]

Being a loyal voter is a quick way to be taken for granted. If Hillary know's you'll vote for her no matter what, she doesn't have to do anything.

It's working surprisingly well for the Tea Party.

[Thepersona]

Being a loyal voter is a quick way to be taken for granted. If Hillary know's you'll vote for her no matter what, she doesn't have to do anything.

I know, but i'm not a loyal voter, heck i cant even vote for i'm not in the US (nor i'm an US citizen)
i just say to all the bernie or bust people, that they have to think about the paris deal. if you vote for trump, and he wins, we can say goodbye to our collective existence

[Cybran]

Again, did you f*cking read what she said (and i cannot say this enough, it was on february)

I really don't care how you or the DNC has decided to spin it. She is a nasty person who has never held an honest job in her life and has made 150 million dollars from trading with power.


She is the last fucking person who should talk like that to young people.

[Thepersona]

I really don't care how you or the DNC has decided to spin it. She is a nasty person who has never held an honest job in her life and has made 150 million dollars from trading with power.


She is the last fucking person who should talk like that to young people.

I didnt spin it on any way. those were her exact words!
and your second statement reeks of cow manure, starting from her job as a public attorney, to her job as a senator

[Wells]

How dare people demand change! They should be WITHHER and obediently and meekly take whatever is given.....?

Wow..... Only a Clinton could think like that.

You're a master at making up positions to attack.

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Being a loyal voter is a quick way to be taken for granted. If Hillary know's you'll vote for her no matter what, she doesn't have to do anything.

This is in no way reflected in US politics. The GOP is hyper loyal to the groups that are loyal to them.

[NED funded]

I know, but i'm not a loyal voter, heck i cant even vote for i'm not in the US (nor i'm an US citizen)
i just say to all the bernie or bust people, that they have to think about the paris deal. if you vote for trump, and he wins, we can say goodbye to our collective existence

I think the bernieorbust people should understand that adopting the Scandinavian model will not solve all of our problems. Furthermore I don't think they even understand what the Nordic Model. In reality, the Nordic Model is a complicated af piece of technocratic engineering, not just free healthcare and free college. Such a system like singapore to libertarians is not politically feasible in the usa where parties just stare at each other in front of the budget and any advance is made by compromising.

[Venant]

You're a master at making up positions to attack.

What is your position in regards to basements?

[Espe]

Keep it up Dumpsters! Your cowardice is showing! All you can do is nitpick a nearly year-old recording?

Your lord n master is apparently having nightmares and twitting at 3am cuz he can't sleep over a damn beauty queen he made fun of a decade ago, and is so mentally insecure he has to attack her and clintons husband over a distance cuz he can't attack her or her policies.

In short, your damn ship is on fire and sinking, and you're wasting time acusing anybody but yourselves... Whatever distracts you from your mistake in voting a deranged orangutang for president.

Yep, he sure knows how to play conservatives perfectly with this mentally disturbed, petty bullshit.

Great candidate, super presidential.

[Ausr]

I didnt spin it on any way. those were her exact words!
and your second statement reeks of cow manure, starting from her job as a public attorney, to her job as a senator

First thing you will learn with Cybran. He doesn't read anything he links or you link. He's so dumb he links things that go against his argument. Second thing you'll learn, massively prejudiced. Third, he bases his world view on anime.

Yep.

[alexw]

I didnt spin it on any way. those were her exact words!
and your second statement reeks of cow manure, starting from her job as a public attorney, to her job as a senator

Cybran is Russian. Given Trump would make overtures to Russia and likely remove the sanctions they are under it doesn't matter what reality is. Cybran will ignore it and attack Clinton.

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What is your position in regards to basements?

Why, do you have a phobia about them or something?

[Orbitus]

Have I told anyone to vote for Trump?

For someone not voting for him, you sure do a lot of defending of him.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

For someone not voting for him, you sure do a lot of defending of him.

I remember she said Trump was gonna win constantly even though he was down in the polls several times. She also jumped the gun whenever polls showed Trump ahead even when they were right wing biased. I don't know if it's fear of trump getting a elected or just boredom.